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Dec 3
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Goodly afternoon all...
Got a little free time on my hands so came up with this post.
I was admiring Larry's "Patchz" post "Long Tieng Beta Test" on the forums and the old Cessna Skymaster brought back some fond memories and chew the rag sessions at the old bugsmasher airfield between a bunch of old retired rocking chair flying geezers.
Here is what I found at a Transport Canada Site:
The multi-engine centre line thrust class rating is valid only for an individual multi-engine centre line thrust aeroplane type endorsed on the licence. An applicant who meets the requirements for a multi-engine rating also meets the requirements for a multi-engine centre line thrust rating.
Now having flown, bought and sold several Cessna Skymasters the 1964 Skymaster 336 was one of my favourite aircraft to fly. It had fixed landing gear and you really had to keep an eye on the rear engine temperatures as they used to overheat. Still a good aircraft and fun to fly.
After several years and buying and selling several other single engine types along came the Cessna Skymaster 337. These were produced around 1965, were larger, had retractable landing gear and a dorsal air scoop for the rear engine.
The first few I was told that came off the assembly line had problems with gear extension. The pilot would open his door, use a johnny bar to reach down and give the gear a pull. This problem was fixed as I never had a problem myself.
The aircraft was also great too fly but expensive to maintain.
Pressurized and turbo versions followed.
What you see in Larry's post is the Cessna O-2 Skymaster or the military version. Much nicer aeroplane range wise and lots of windows.
It could also shoot pointy things which hurt if they hit you. HMMMM...not sure if they could be used for bear or deer hunting...
So what is the point of this post?
Be careful what you post what you fly here at Simviation as flying a Cessna O-2 or 337 requires either a Multi-Engine Rating or a Centerline Thrust Rating.
I have heard the moderators are checking on what rating we actually have....
Members have actually disappeared into the Simviation Dungeon only to be found wandering about the forums much later mumbling to themselves and covered in sticky marmalade....
Well thought I would just bring this little information forward to you Larry "Patchz" for anyone who wants to fly the Skymaster at Long Tieng...
...or anywhere else...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Dec 3
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Good evening Doug.
I understand your concern and would like to put
you
your mind to rest. You need not worry, as I am certified with a multi-engine rating by the Simulated FAA. I realize you need more than just my word for it, so I submit the following evidence.
Now you can fly your rocking chair without any more worries.
Cheers,
Larry
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If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Dec 3
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Awesome Larry...just awesome...
Who has more fun than we do...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Dec 3
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Flying Trucker wrote
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rd
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Awesome Larry...just awesome...
Who has more fun than we do...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
Nobody.
But it is most difficult to edit while rolling on the floor laughing.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Dec 3
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You realize how old you are to have that number? Mine was issued in 1967 - 1799780 - over one and theequarter mil and yours is less than half a mil - you are really old
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Dec 3
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olderndirt wrote
on Dec 3
rd
, 2010 at 9:12pm:
You realize how old you are to have that number? Mine was issued in 1967 - 1799780 - over one and theequarter mil and yours is less than half a mil - you are really old
.
Better than 000001.
Uh, you need to put your glasses on and look again.
Ok, ok, I changed it when you weren't looking.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Goodly morning all...
Here in Canada a police officer or anyone else for that matter when looking at a Motor Vehicle Drivers Licence can see the entire Date of Birth in the Licence Number.
We hear that Military Drivers Licences are going the same way and will be plastic the same as the Military Identification Card.
I wonder if Transport Canada will catch on and make the Pilots Licence plastic with the Date of Birth incorporated into the licence number. Would seem like a good idea to me.
Then again we have the Boaters Licence, Gun Licence and Hunting Licence...so much plastic but it would save on paper and plastic like paper is recyclable and would last longer.
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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patchz wrote
on Dec 3
rd
, 2010 at 11:54pm:
olderndirt wrote
on Dec 3
rd
, 2010 at 9:12pm:
You realize how old you are to have that number? Mine was issued in 1967 - 1799780 - over one and theequarter mil and yours is less than half a mil - you are really old
.
Better than 000001.
Uh, you need to put your glasses on and look again.
Ok, ok, I changed it when you weren't looking.
And you'd probably have fallen in the era when the went to SSN's - another FAA genius move.
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Dec 7
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Flying Trucker wrote
on Dec 5
th
, 2010 at 8:52am:
Goodly morning all...
Here in Canada a police officer or anyone else for that matter when looking at a Motor Vehicle Drivers Licence can see the entire Date of Birth in the Licence Number.
We hear that Military Drivers Licences are going the same way and will be plastic the same as the Military Identification Card.
I wonder if Transport Canada will catch on and make the Pilots Licence plastic with the Date of Birth incorporated into the licence number. Would seem like a good idea to me.
Then again we have the Boaters Licence, Gun Licence and Hunting Licence...so much plastic but it would save on paper and plastic like paper is recyclable and would last longer.
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
My Captain Midnight decoder ring ranks right up there with my pilots' license - I don't even have the debris from my shredded medical. In Alaska, at age sixty, I qualified for a lifetime hunting and fishing license - free. Here in Washington you need separate licenses for fresh water, salt water, shell fish etc etc. Still have my '007' number though
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Dec 7
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olderndirt wrote
on Dec 7
th
, 2010 at 9:43pm:
Flying Trucker wrote
on Dec 5
th
, 2010 at 8:52am:
Goodly morning all...
Here in Canada a police officer or anyone else for that matter when looking at a Motor Vehicle Drivers Licence can see the entire Date of Birth in the Licence Number.
We hear that Military Drivers Licences are going the same way and will be plastic the same as the Military Identification Card.
I wonder if Transport Canada will catch on and make the Pilots Licence plastic with the Date of Birth incorporated into the licence number. Would seem like a good idea to me.
Then again we have the Boaters Licence, Gun Licence and Hunting Licence...so much plastic but it would save on paper and plastic like paper is recyclable and would last longer.
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
My Captain Midnight decoder ring ranks right up there with my pilots' license - I don't even have the debris from my shredded medical. In Alaska, at age sixty, I qualified for a lifetime hunting and fishing license - free. Here in Washington you need separate licenses for fresh water, salt water, shell fish etc etc. Still have my '007' number though
.
Ah, you have a license to kill.....
deer, fish.....
I lost my enjoyment of fishing back in the eighties and quit hunting in '93 because of back problems. I used to get the Sportsman license every year to support the system and because I sometimes hunted hunted rabbits and turkey as well as deer. I still miss deer hunting, but mostly just the opportunity to spend time in the woods in the fall, and being rocked to sleep by a gentle wind whilst twenty feet up a pine tree.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Dec 8
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Goodly morning all...
Oh yes Larry we do but unlike our son's and daughters the old girl and I have not hunted in several years.
I would rather seem them in the bush than on the table but do not get me wrong, neither of us has turned down a wild game dinner...
We usually manage one or two wild game dinners around Christmas put on by a family member or the neighbours we had at the old homestead...
We still Trap and Skeet shoot along with target shooting at the local range (which by the way is upping it's membership in January again....
I prefer the revolver over the pistol but use both and there are just too many rifle and shotguns to mention...
Like flying target shooting is a great past time but here it is getting very expensive if you are a club member. The clubs now also want you to be at or work several functions a year such as bartending, clean up etc...etc...
I think at the end of this month the old girl and I will call it quits at most clubs as we want more time to ourselves and we both feel we have done our part...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Dec 8
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Flying Trucker wrote
on Dec 8
th
, 2010 at 9:49am:
Goodly morning all...
Oh yes Larry we do but unlike our son's and daughters the old girl and I have not hunted in several years.
I would rather seem them in the bush than on the table but do not get me wrong, neither of us has turned down a wild game dinner...
We usually manage one or two wild game dinners around Christmas put on by a family member or the neighbours we had at the old homestead...
We still Trap and Skeet shoot along with target shooting at the local range (which by the way is upping it's membership in January again....
I prefer the revolver over the pistol but use both and there are just too many rifle and shotguns to mention...
Like flying target shooting is a great past time but here it is getting very expensive if you are a club member. The clubs now also want you to be at or work several functions a year such as bartending, clean up etc...etc...
I think at the end of this month the old girl and I will call it quits at most clubs as we want more time to ourselves and we both feel we have done our part...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
I know what you mean Doug. It's understandable, wanting members to share the work load, but sometimes they fail to consider age and disabilities. I ran a regional match for several years and always had difficulty getting
people to help. Wish I had a $1 for every B-27 target I've pasted on cardboard.
I too prefer the wheel gun, but I've been carrying 1911 clones for several years now. I spent the first twenty years of my adult life carrying revolvers on duty and shooting them in competition. I can still take a Smith &
Wesson apart and put it back together with my eyes closed. I have to keep them open for the 1911.
And I am very partial to .45 caliber. I carried a .44 magnum for seventeen years, but since I've been fooling around
with 1911s and Long Colt revolvers, I prefer .45 caliber over all others, especially the Long Colt. Come to think of it, that would have to be at the top of my Christmas list, a Smith & Wesson model 25-5, .45 Long Colt with a
6" barrel. I would prefer a 5" but that would be a custom job since Smith did not make anything but 4" and 6". Never was very good at Skeet but I enjoy shooting them. Hard to cook though.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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th
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I carried a .44 magnum for seventeen years
Dirty Larry??
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Dec 8
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aussiewannabe wrote
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th
, 2010 at 4:05pm:
patchz wrote
on Dec 8
th
, 2010 at 12:54pm:
I carried a .44 magnum for seventeen years
Dirty Larry??
Yup, I got tagged with that very quick. It was a 6
1
/
2
" barrel, but I'm tall enough to carry it without problems, plus the fact that I used a Hoyt front break holster.
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patchz wrote
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th
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Ah, you have a license to kill.....
Time - mostly
. Living in Alaska and not hunting and fishing is just like living in sin. My kids didn't eat beef 'til we moved to the big city. Along the way, I caught the fish, dug the razor clams and even trapped a few furry critters. Having a plane didn't hurt
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Goodly morning all...
Not owning an aircraft in Alaska would be like not having a pair of winter red flannel longjohns with a rear trap door...
Give me a roast of Moose, Bear or Deer (venison) over Beef or Pork anyday....
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Flying Trucker wrote
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Goodly morning all...
Not owning an aircraft in Alaska would be like not having a pair of winter red flannel longjohns with a rear trap door...
Give me a roast of Moose, Bear or Deer (venison) over Beef or Pork anyday....
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
Never got a chance to try bear Doug. But a friend of the family brought back some ground Moose from a hunting trip to Canada years ago. We made Moose burgers.
I still prefer deer though.
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patchz wrote
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Flying Trucker wrote
on Dec 9
th
, 2010 at 7:53am:
Goodly morning all...
Not owning an aircraft in Alaska would be like not having a pair of winter red flannel longjohns with a rear trap door...
Give me a roast of Moose, Bear or Deer (venison) over Beef or Pork anyday....
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
Never got a chance to try bear Doug. But a friend of the family brought back some ground Moose from a hunting trip to Canada years ago. We made Moose burgers.
I still prefer deer though.
Along the way, I was invited to Indian potlatches and tried several exotic versions of local game. Beaver tail stew and Moose Nose soup to name a few. Fresh moose liver, soaked for a day or so then sliced and fried with lots of onions - yum, yum - along with a superdry Beefeater martini
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Goodly afternoon all...
Larry forget the wild game stew or burgers...roasts are the way to go with no fancy marinate or you lose the flavour.
Dave...you sure are making me hungry...darn it...
Folks, there is no need to marinate wild game. You lose the flavour.
Cooking on a gas BBQ you might as well be cooking on an indoor gas range. Use wood chips, brickets or charcoal for all outdoor cooking. You will have a nicer flavour...try it...
The meat being wild game or domestic is much better if it can be done on a spit/rotisserie outdoors over a wood fire...awesome...just awesome...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Flying Trucker wrote
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Goodly afternoon all...
Larry forget the wild game stew or burgers...roasts are the way to go with no fancy marinate or you lose the flavour.
Dave...you sure are making me hungry...darn it...
Folks, there is no need to marinate wild game. You lose the flavour.
Cooking on a gas BBQ you might as well be cooking on an indoor gas range. Use wood chips, brickets or charcoal for all outdoor cooking. You will have a nicer flavour...try it...
The meat being wild game or domestic is much better if it can be done on a spit/rotisserie outdoors over a wood fire...awesome...just awesome...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
I had my first chance to try bear this past month. We cooked it just how you described it Doug, Cooked slowly on a spit over a wood fire, no marinate (It didn't need it!). I was expecting it to be dry after 3 and a half hours of slow roasting but I was pleasantly surprised on how juicy it was!
MMmmmm....
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I just posted in another thread, a rather lengthy, opinionated reply about whatever! I love how threads have a life of thier own!
Flying with twins is a lot of fun..
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Steve M wrote
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I just posted in another thread, a rather lengthy, opinionated reply about whatever! I love how threads have a life of thier own!
Well, at least he wasn't eating drowned caribou.
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Good morning all...
I am still mad as hell over this....
Yesterday the old girl and I renewed three of our different club memberships, it was not the renewal fee that has me hopping mad however they did go up.
The fact that when you renew a licence or club membership fee one has to pay three to five dollars each to have it plasticised...
The previous years it was always free, just another money grab me thinks...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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Flying Trucker wrote
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Good morning all...
I am still mad as hell over this....
Yesterday the old girl and I renewed three of our different club memberships, it was not the renewal fee that has me hopping mad however they did go up.
The fact that when you renew a licence or club membership fee one has to pay three to five dollars each to have it plasticised...
The previous years it was always free, just another money grab me thinks...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
I feel your angst Doug. It fits right in with this new 'disposable' world we live in. I, for one would like to see everything slow down and/or pause for a while, except for anything that improves health or peace, or makes things less complicated.
I just recently realized, in a lot of ways, I am becoming my Father. I finally understand where he was coming from. Wish I could have told him that before he died.
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Good morning Larry...
I would bet that you are not alone Larry, a majority of fathers on this forum most likely feel the same way...
Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
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