Simviation Forum - New Gateway comp for FSX

Nov 30^th, 2010 at 8:19pm

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I wanted to buy a new desktop computer to run FSX. I was looking at the Gateway® FX6803-25 i dont want to pay over 1500 any recommendations? i want gateway anything else is ok

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Reply #1 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 9:34pm

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manesag wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 8:19pm:

I wanted to buy a new desktop computer to run FSX. I was looking at the Gateway® FX6803-25 i dont want to pay over 1500 any recommendations? i want gateway anything else is ok

Consider building your own. Anyone with opposed thumbs can do it. Half the fun is researching the various components - talent and knowledge run riot around here so pick some brains. For $1500 you could have an exemplary rig - the envy of the whole block, and beyond

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Reply #2 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 6:59am

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Hmm never thought of that but I think I want a prebuilt one

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Reply #3 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:34am

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You can do MUCH better for FSX and $1500, than that Gateway. Many times premanufactured PCs have very limited potential for growth. I understand why you might not want to build your own, but OnD is right. Dollar for dollar, building your own system is usually the best way to go. HOWEVER, if you have your heart set on one that's already assembled, have a look at these. (Newegg just started selling them)

First, just to cover my butt, let me say that I have NEVER DEALT WITH THIS COMPANY BEFORE. From the looks of it though, I'd say that these machines are pretty resonably priced and look to be made with hardware a builder would use to put his or her own machine together with.

The best of both worlds?

I really can't help you out with which would be the best for FSX, but someone here should be able to.

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Reply #4 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:23pm

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Groundbound1 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:34am:

First, just to cover my butt, let me say that I have NEVER DEALT WITH THIS COMPANY BEFORE.

Keeping in mind that 'NEWEGG' is a reseller (doesn't make anything themselves) they have an excellent reputation. All components in my recent build came from them and everything worked - no smoke

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Reply #5 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:26pm

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olderndirt wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:23pm:

Groundbound1 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:34am:

First, just to cover my butt, let me say that I have NEVER DEALT WITH THIS COMPANY BEFORE.

Keeping in mind that 'NEWEGG' is a reseller (doesn't make anything themselves) they have an excellent reputation. All components in my recent build came from them and everything worked - no smoke

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Yeah, Newegg is great. I meant that I've never had dealings with CyberPower pcs before. Wink

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Reply #6 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:32pm

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Groundbound1 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:26pm:

olderndirt wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:23pm:

Groundbound1 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:34am:

First, just to cover my butt, let me say that I have NEVER DEALT WITH THIS COMPANY BEFORE.

Keeping in mind that 'NEWEGG' is a reseller (doesn't make anything themselves) they have an excellent reputation. All components in my recent build came from them and everything worked - no smoke

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Yeah, Newegg is great. I meant that I've never had dealings with CyberPower pcs before. Wink

Looking at their site, first thought was how did we ever survive not having all those internal leds

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Reply #7 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:48pm

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olderndirt wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:32pm:

Groundbound1 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:26pm:

olderndirt wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 1:23pm:

Groundbound1 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 10:34am:

First, just to cover my butt, let me say that I have NEVER DEALT WITH THIS COMPANY BEFORE.

Keeping in mind that 'NEWEGG' is a reseller (doesn't make anything themselves) they have an excellent reputation. All components in my recent build came from them and everything worked - no smoke

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Yeah, Newegg is great. I meant that I've never had dealings with CyberPower pcs before. Wink

Looking at their site, first thought was how did we ever survive not having all those internal leds

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Makes 'em run faster! Grin

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Reply #8 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 3:54pm

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Well I checked their website and I've seen them from a PC World magazine. Make my own computer that's something fun to do! And cheap I'll keep looking around thanks olderndirt and groundbound1

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Reply #9 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 4:54pm

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well looking at cyberpc did help me but i cant choose graphics what should i choose ati radeon hd 5970 or nvidia geforce gtx580?

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Reply #10 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 5:15pm

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got some specs
Case: Xion Predator 970 Gaming Series Mid Tower Case w/ 2 External Removable HDD Bays
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-950 3.06 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
Freebies: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
Motherboard: * (3-Way SLI Support) GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Ultra Durable™3 Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Dolby Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2 x SATA-III RAID, IEEE1394a, 4 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI [+36]
Motherboard Expansion Card: None
Memory: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+515] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Freebies: FREE H.A.W.X.®2 Game
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Dedicated PHYSX Card: None
Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
Power Supply Upgrade: 950 Watts - CyberPowerPC Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply [+79]
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: Logitech S120 2.0 Stereo Speaker Set [+19] (Black Color)
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Surge Protector: None
Mega Notebook/Netbook/Server Bundle: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
Surge Protector: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
Floppy: None
Operating System: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

ignore some things like rush service etc

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Reply #11 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 7:55pm

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Try here.

From the looks of things (I have no firsthand experience with either), the ATI card may yield higher frame rates in some games, but the NVidia card is said to be smoother and more "playable". Wink

I'm glad we could help. This is just my opinion, but when someone starts talking about a new "gaming machine", Gateway really isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Grin

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Reply #12 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 8:07pm

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i saw that site earlier today and i think the nvidia would be better due to the increased memory but i think the ati is better. still dont know first ill only get one graphic card and then buy another

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Reply #13 - Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:32am

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manesag wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 4:54pm:

well looking at cyberpc did help me but i cant choose graphics what should i choose ati radeon hd 5970 or nvidia geforce gtx580?

I can't speak to the nvidia other than it seems popular and Nick says they are better for FS. The ATI is a great card for any new games, but has problems with FSX. I know, because that's what I am running. I had to add ATI Tray Tools to get rid of the jaggies as ATI CC would not do it. AVG recently nixed a Tray Tools file and I still don't have the problem solved. So if FS is your main game, I suggest nvidia. ATI, now AMD does not think there are enough people with FS to warrant them writing a proper driver for their cards.

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Reply #14 - Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 7:13am

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Well sometimes I play fsx and then for a time I do not. One other graphic intense game that i play is darkspace but I haven't played that for a few months. I think i should go with the ati and remove (but not throw away) and buy the new nvidia gtx 590 it's two gtx 580 gpus

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Reply #15 - Dec 4^th, 2010 at 6:53pm

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well i still need help deciding a graphic card. either a ati radeon hd 5970 or nvidia geforce gtx 580 ill be running fsx and when it comes out microsoft flight

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Reply #16 - Dec 5^th, 2010 at 12:26pm

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Get the GTX 580. Slightly slower than the 5970 in most games, although it should outperform it significantly in FSX.

GTX 590 isn't for sale, and when it is, it will likely be dual GTX 560 which means it will be inferior to the 580 in FSX (FSX only uses 1 GPU). GTX 580 is too power hungry to put two on a single card.

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Reply #17 - Dec 5^th, 2010 at 7:44pm

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thanks for telling me that

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Reply #18 - Dec 6^th, 2010 at 4:35pm

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Well I really won't be able to get a computer like that because one I don't have the money being that I'm 13. But I might be able to rebuild my old Dell dimension 2400 pc. It has a Intel Pentium 4 clocked at 2.88 a 80 gb hardrive 768mbs of ram (3/4 of 1 gb). And integrated graphics. What i could do is start to buy new stuff but keep the case. Again need to be cheap any recommendations

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