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Nov 26th, 2010 at 5:38pm

Steve M   Offline
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I'll be working outside again this winter so I started doing my annual web search for warm clothing. I came across this little gem. Foot warmers with a remote control. The remote has a ten "foot" range. If my hand gets 10 feet away from my foot I'll be needing some medical assistance!
http://www.thermacell.com/footwarmer/
How do you keep warm? Last year I bought those packets called Hotties where you shake them and stick them in your gloves and boots. Layering clothing helps but I find that the outer layer needs to be water proof because once you get wet your screwed. The boots I am picking up next week cost over 200 dollars. Living in southern On. isn't so bad, but I often travel north for my job.
 

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Reply #1 - Nov 26th, 2010 at 9:04pm

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When I worked on the North Slope, layering was the 'in' thing.  Start with silk long johns, top and socks then some of the 'Thinsulate' garments.  The US Military, as I'm sure the Canadian, has seen the light and has some pretty decent stuff.  Down, of course, is still the best but not under all conditions - which brings up that age-old question.  Which weighs more, a pound of Goose down or a pound of Duck?.
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 8:14am

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I've got to try the thinsulate stuff. I have a couple of friends who swear by it. I had forgotten about that until you mentioned it.
 

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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 8:31am

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If you need good gloves, try HESTRA - they have some good workstuff. And I'm very contend with their skigloves - they always kept me warm and dry!
 

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Reply #4 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 9:32am

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If you are looking for a fleece, then I can recommend "Keela". Kept me toasty on the ramp at 02:00 and -20C last year.

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Reply #5 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 10:13am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

Steve having flown most of Canada and the United States for more than five decades I found this out.

Flying in Northern Ontario and the Artic the weather is a much drier cold.  It is not as damp as the weather in Southern Ontario especially around the Great Lakes.

It is the dampness that really gets to you.

Minus forty celsius was the norm in winter and being in Southern Ontario was much more uncomfortable than being in the North.

One will see the northern lads snowmobiling, skiing, skating etc. etc. with perhaps a winter jacket and in jeans where as in the south we all put on snowmobile suits, different types of winter undergarmets, insulated jeans etc. etc.

Layering is a good idea but once you start to perspire you are beat as your undergarmets are usually wet by then.
When travelling in a land vehicle or light aircraft, wait for the heat to start coming through and then remove some layers before starting off.
It may take a little longer but much more comfortable in the long run.

Check out some winter garmet sites as the clothing now for civilian use is just as good as what the military use.

Remember you only get what you pay for also.
Shop around... Wink

I do think they have better clothing now but back in the 50s and 60s I knew Police Constables who would wear ladies pantyhose under their uniform as they would keep out the wind and were much warmer than thermal underwear.... Grin

Just some comments I thought about... Wink

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 10:15am

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Meck wrote on Nov 27th, 2010 at 8:31am:
If you need good gloves, try HESTRA - they have some good workstuff. And I'm very contend with their skigloves - they always kept me warm and dry!


Thanks Meck, these look pretty warm. I use two different pairs of gloves during the workday. One pair I buy is deerskin riding gloves because of the dextarity I get when using tools. These Hestra gloves would do for the in between times.
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 10:23am

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expat wrote on Nov 27th, 2010 at 9:32am:
If you are looking for a fleece, then I can recommend "Keela". Kept me toasty on the ramp at 02:00 and -20C last year.

Matt


Thanks Matt, the Keela gear looks fantastic. Now only if they had some stores on this side of the pond. I hesitate to buy these online because I can't try them on first. If I could find Keela around here I would certainly give them a try.
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 10:41am

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Flying Trucker wrote on Nov 27th, 2010 at 10:13am:
Goodly morning all... Smiley

Steve having flown most of Canada and the United States for more than five decades I found this out.

Flying in Northern Ontario and the Artic the weather is a much drier cold.  It is not as damp as the weather in Southern Ontario especially around the Great Lakes.

It is the dampness that really gets to you.

Minus forty celsius was the norm and being in Southern Ontario was much more uncomfortable than being in the North.

One will see the northern lads snowmobiling, skiing, skating etc. etc. with perhaps a winter jacket and in jeans where as in the south we all put on snowmobile suits, different types of winter undergarmets, insulated jeans etc. etc.

Layering is a good idea but once you start to perspire you are beat as your undergarmets are usually wet by then.
When travelling in a land vehicle or light aircraft, wait for the heat to start coming through and then remove some layers before starting off.
It may take a little longer but much more comfortable in the long run.

Check out some winter garmet sites as the clothing now for civilian use is just as good as what the military use.

Remember you only get what you pay for also.
Shop around... Wink

I do think they have better clothing now but back in the 50s and 60s I knew Police Constables who would wear ladies pantyhose under their uniform as they would keep out the wind and were much warmer than thermal underwear.... Grin

Just some comments I thought about... Wink

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug


Hi Doug.
I know what you mean about the dryer air up north. When I go icefishing up north I can be outside all day drinking ice cold beer and it never bothered me at all.
The dampness in the cold air farther south chills me right to the bone.
I always carry extra pairs of sox in case the feet get to warm. Even a thin film of perspiration on the feet can ruin your day.
Yes it sure is expensive to get good winter gear. As I said, my new -70 Kodiak boots were $200 and they aren't even the best boots off the shelf.
I use the layering method also, but I'm amazed at the pile of extra laundry at the end of the week!
 

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Reply #9 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 12:32pm

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With fingers and toes, the idea is be able to move them.  If you need fingered gloves, wear a pair of silk inside - nothing tight.  When I flew in the winter, I wore Indian made mukluks with mouton (lambswool) socks - furry side in.  My outer gloves were wolf fur mitts with rabbit lining - inside the mitts, fingered gloves with silk liners.  The mitts were on a harness so I could knock them off and not have to look for them later  Smiley.
 

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Reply #10 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 1:06pm

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olderndirt wrote on Nov 27th, 2010 at 12:32pm:
With fingers and toes, the idea is be able to move them.  If you need fingered gloves, wear a pair of silk inside - nothing tight.  When I flew in the winter, I wore Indian made mukluks with mouton (lambswool) socks - furry side in.  My outer gloves were wolf fur mitts with rabbit lining - inside the mitts, fingered gloves with silk liners.  The mitts were on a harness so I could knock them off and not have to look for them later  Smiley.


Some good advice here,thanks, anything to snug will make matters worse. Fingers, toes and nose are my biggest setback, I think my blood circulation isn't what it used to be. Being able to move around with ease, such as climbing scaffolding and working with tools is a must. Most times I'll just call it a day if the temp. gets around -28 or -30, No point in getting frostbite for a building. Bad part about leaving a site is if I leave, the whole crew has to leave.
 

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Reply #11 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 2:49pm

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Well, on days like today, I just put on a long sleeve shirt. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 27th, 2010 at 3:23pm

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patchz wrote on Nov 27th, 2010 at 2:49pm:
Well, on days like today, I just put on a long sleeve shirt. Roll Eyes


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