Simviation Forum - Improving Reamaking the Citation X 750

Nov 26^th, 2010 at 1:24pm

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I want to make a personal statement:

I'm posting this ,to create myself a promise ,and keep this proyect until its finish and release..

I'm not feeling latyely all right about the freeware """hobby"" which it has become more like a nightmare than satisfaction.

only the master chief knows how much I did spend so many hours in this airplane last year ,I being thinking about it and questioning myself why didn't was well receive too ,then I open my source files to take closer look ,and put the CitX back in the FSX game (In my PC) and I just found out why wasn't so well receive.

besides there are only two paywares ,and one of them Doesn't have the real nose and belly of a real life Citation X .

I though in the beginning I was going to make and update ,but I can't is practically and entire re make the whole airplane except the VC ,which it only will be update it and perhaps will have a FMC too

among many updates and adds (It seems doesn't have wipers its a shame) also the flight dynamics has some issues one of them in autopilot in very high altitudes

The belly
That is one of the most difficult and horrible work Shocked

I ever had to faith, and probably the main reason why there aren't too many CitX freewares out there..

there were too many things I felt uncomfortable about this plane starting with the FX chrome in the lead edge flaps ,the too much wing flex and the horrible belly made separately parts , I being working in this

many things will be fix and replace
lets keep this thread about this model only please

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Reply #1 - Nov 26^th, 2010 at 11:35pm

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Always liked that plane, glad to see you're redoing it.

Will you be redoing the VC as well?

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Reply #2 - Nov 27^th, 2010 at 7:03am

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RaptorF22 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2010 at 11:35pm:

Will you be redoing the VC as well?

I'm not redoing it , I'll fix some of the dummy panels ,remap some of the windows area and add more things (just in the cockpit area )
there will be fix the lights problem , Its a long list of things

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Reply #3 - Nov 27^th, 2010 at 9:00am

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Dude, that is signifigant improvement over the first model... What I'm looking for is a small file size, so the download doesn't time out! Roll Eyes

You could make it in parts... Just sayin'. Grin

I'm very glad to see that you are taking time to bring more and better things to the FS world. The fuselage looks ten times better, waiting to see more... Tongue

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Reply #4 - Nov 27^th, 2010 at 9:19am

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Strawberry Yogurt wrote on Nov 27^th, 2010 at 9:00am:

Dude, that is signifigant improvement over the first model... What I'm looking for is a small file size, so the download doesn't time out! Roll Eyes

You could make it in parts... Just sayin'. Grin

I'm very glad to see that you are taking time to bring more and better things to the FS world. The fuselage looks ten times better, waiting to see more... Tongue

that would be the 3rd model

I want to make things straight out ,This ISN'T the first model at all made in 2004
then updated to fit in FSX

This IS another model

the new model was completely made from 0 last year ,was a whole new model

Is going to be a update/improve of my last model

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Reply #5 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 3:08am

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Reply #6 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 9:40am

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this is the new belly of the Citation x (is not map it yet Just color white)

now the rest its easy Cool

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Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 5:47am

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It's looking good !
Good idea to rework the chrome effect, it was indeed a bit exagerated, more like a perfect mirror than real aircraft chrome. The same problem could be found on the engines of your 707, if I remember correctly.
I think I said it already but one think I really like on this CitationX is... the front windows. I love their colors and the general look/style they give to the aircraft.

That new belly makes this aircraft even better now. With the shots you have made, I realize the complexity of the shape, in fact it must be quite difficult to model such a shape...

Looking forward to your next updates. I've done quite a few flights with your Citation recently. If you fix the lights, remember to KEEP the two-levels lighting in the virtual cockpit as it is in the current version (instruments and cabin independent from each other), because it's just cool Cool

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Reply #8 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 7:18am

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Daube wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 5:47am:

It's looking good !
Good idea to rework the chrome effect, it was indeed a bit exagerated, more like a perfect mirror than real aircraft chrome. The same problem could be found on the engines of your 707, if I remember correctly.
I think I said it already but one think I really like on this CitationX is... the front windows. I love their colors and the general look/style they give to the aircraft.

That new belly makes this aircraft even better now. With the shots you have made, I realize the complexity of the shape, in fact it must be quite difficult to model such a shape...

Looking forward to your next updates. I've done quite a few flights with your Citation recently. If you fix the lights, remember to KEEP the two-levels lighting in the virtual cockpit as it is in the current version (instruments and cabin independent from each other), because it's just cool Cool

Guess who is going to be testing this plane soon? (Possibly this same week) Grin

there is a weird Up and Down in Flight Label 32 to 40 in autopilot mode ,Brett Henderson did its last flight Dynamics ,But I don't know what cause this ,I'm working on it

Do you like those sounds like if it was a combat fighter?

what are these things for?
http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1291119628/0#0

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Reply #9 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 8:26am

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good luck with it Alex, I remember being one of your original beta-testers, a great honour indeed. I've still got all your FS9 models in my hangar and regularly take them out for a spin. The Citation is still one of my favourites (easier to do aerobatics in than the others) Wink

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Reply #10 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 10:38am

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ozzy72 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 8:26am:

good luck with it Alex, I remember being one of your original beta-testers, a great honour indeed. I've still got all your FS9 models in my hangar and regularly take them out for a spin. The Citation is still one of my favourites (easier to do aerobatics in than the others) Wink

Pllllleaaase! Mark the Honor would be all mine my old chap!

Grin

I remember when you put Upside down the Boeing 717 in a shot back trying to pass beneath the london Bridge in 2003 or 2004 ,or was the first citation X Huh

I'll be sending you a copy once I get near the end ,I'm repainting now, (oh Boy I can't believe I made that paint last year like that ,Dang! its so bad made ,the strip are so fat Undecided

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this proyect will be release very soon if its not this week will be the next one cuz I got some work Real life to do ,you know ?

Hey ,I'm still want to go to Hungary

or anywhere but here

but I believe your not there anymore Cry

Alex

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