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I don't earn anything (Read 2818 times)
Reply #30 -
Nov 18
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, 2010 at 7:38pm
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Daube wrote
on Nov 18
th
, 2010 at 4:00pm:
I suppose the amount of effort to get this stupid site drop Alrot's files would not be worth the result. I'm a bit pessimistic here but as many already said, Alrot is not the first one to get problems with that famous site.
After all, there is a reason why FSPlanet is nicknamed "FSPirates" on all the FS forums.
I think that's part of the solution. It's not just Alrot who has been affected, so it's more possible to drop the site instead of just the files.
As I said earlier, contacting the actual web host and informing them, and having the group support of those affected, would be an easier solution. It shouldn't have to come to a court case. If they downloaded a few of them for themselves they could probably see 'these websites only' or 'no fsplanet' in some of the READMEs. That should be proof enough.
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Reply #31 -
Nov 19
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it looks like they've taken your file down alex.
i looked @ their website, and your file was the first one listed. I clicked on it and got a "file not found" message.
now a question for you all;
i clicked on a few files there and they started downloading just fine at a speed of 30Kbps; I didn't have to pay anything.
This is no different than simV. If you don't have a membership, you can download around 30Kbps, and there are limits on how many files you can download simultaneously.
So what exactly is the difference between simviation and fsplanet?
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Reply #32 -
Nov 20
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, 2010 at 6:39am
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brantmacga wrote
on Nov 19
th
, 2010 at 11:23pm:
So what exactly is the difference between simviation and fsplanet?
I been here for 10 years, Everything I know about MSFS I learn it here , Pete the owner has been my friend since I join this club, and I hope he sells a lot membership cause of my airplaneS, I got a website hosted here , I got many other personal good reason ,WHO is that son of b** to take some one else work?
who and what is FSPlanet?
the webmaster and i spoken a lot about this issue and its true
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There are no monetary damages here, only a violation of civil law. It's not a criminal matter. Attorney fees would be very high to even get them to consider asking for an injunction. Much less the costs for any enforcement
listen I don't wanna keep saying the same things over and over
I did even upload the zip file to my own fsnd folder cause I want to keep the countdown control too.
to give you a reason ,I want the best for Simviation ,If some one gets ,this is simviation property ....period
that was my work ,and I decide about my work who and who doesn't
BTW: Its doesn't download because you need to pay its membership ,Maybe I wouldn't get so angry if I could download it from there ,Obviously is for fspirate convenient the guy is hungry need more money the model was released 12 hours ago ,In other way he's making money with my work ,while faster or slow was given free (I download it and it took like 30 minutes the second day)
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Reply #33 -
Nov 20
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, 2010 at 6:57am
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alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
BTW: Its doesn't download because you need to pay its membership ,Maybe I wouldn't get so angry if I could download it from there ,Obviously is for fspirate convenient the guy is hungry need more money the model was released 12 hours ago ,In other way he's making money with my work ,while faster or slow was given free (I download it and it took like 30 minutes the second day)
I note that all the other files on that page except your MD 83 can now be downloaded from the free links. It might take a while to download a big file as the best I can get is 3.0 kb/sec.
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Reply #34 -
Nov 20
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, 2010 at 8:33am
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Hagar wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:57am:
alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
BTW: Its doesn't download because you need to pay its membership ,Maybe I wouldn't get so angry if I could download it from there ,Obviously is for fspirate convenient the guy is hungry need more money the model was released 12 hours ago ,In other way he's making money with my work ,while faster or slow was given free (I download it and it took like 30 minutes the second day)
I note that all the other files on that page except your MD 83 can now be downloaded from the free links. It might take a while to download a big file as the best I can get is 3.0 kb/sec.
I would be
GOOD
if the file at least start to download in any speed ,so I least I would know its free ,and also I can check if the inside files are being change ..
but better if he remove it
Venezuela
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Reply #35 -
Nov 20
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, 2010 at 8:42am
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alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 8:33am:
Hagar wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:57am:
alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
BTW: Its doesn't download because you need to pay its membership ,Maybe I wouldn't get so angry if I could download it from there ,Obviously is for fspirate convenient the guy is hungry need more money the model was released 12 hours ago ,In other way he's making money with my work ,while faster or slow was given free (I download it and it took like 30 minutes the second day)
I note that all the other files on that page except your MD 83 can now be downloaded from the free links. It might take a while to download a big file as the best I can get is 3.0 kb/sec.
I would be
GOOD
if the file at least start to download in any speed ,so I least I would know its free ,and also I can check if the inside files are being change ..
but better if he remove it
Your MD 83 is the only file on the Latest Files page that you can't download free. I suspect he's done this deliberately to upset you.
He's made it perfectly clear that he's not going to remove it. As I said before, it's best if you ignore him & get on with your life. It's really not worth worrying about.
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Reply #36 -
Nov 20
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, 2010 at 10:47am
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Hagar wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 8:42am:
alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 8:33am:
Hagar wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:57am:
alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
BTW: Its doesn't download because you need to pay its membership ,Maybe I wouldn't get so angry if I could download it from there ,Obviously is for fspirate convenient the guy is hungry need more money the model was released 12 hours ago ,In other way he's making money with my work ,while faster or slow was given free (I download it and it took like 30 minutes the second day)
I note that all the other files on that page except your MD 83 can now be downloaded from the free links. It might take a while to download a big file as the best I can get is 3.0 kb/sec.
I would be
GOOD
if the file at least start to download in any speed ,so I least I would know its free ,and also I can check if the inside files are being change ..
but better if he remove it
Your MD 83 is the only file on the Latest Files page that you can't download free. I suspect he's done this deliberately to upset you.
He's made it perfectly clear that he's not going to remove it. As I said before, it's best if you ignore him & get on with your life. It's really not worth worrying about.
Check this out they got Brett's Bonanza and also can't be downland
http://www.fsplanet.com/12012010.htm
I didn't gave them the 727 ,also can't be download
http://www.fsplanet.com/26022009.htm
I think this isn't about deliberate, this are tops download
(Yes that sounds very show off but its true ) so people get force to buy the membership
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Reply #37 -
Nov 20
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, 2010 at 11:17am
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just google these
"FSplanet Piracy"
there is a way to have a link of a google search but I forgot how to
Its almost like every one are saying this is a piracy site
I'm the last one of a loooooooong list of victims of this site
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Reply #38 -
Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:24pm
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alrot wrote
on Nov 20
th
, 2010 at 6:39am:
BTW: Its doesn't download because you need to pay its membership
Oh I see; so not all files are available without a membership?
Do you need a membership to get the "higher quality" freeware?
I checked out your vid alex; that's a really nice job you did with the MD83. Makes me wish I had a system capable of running FSX.
One last thought; If you don't want to get into payware, but want to control who hosts your work, what if you did make it payware and sell it for a dollar, or even less.
Then you could have absolute control over distribution.
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Reply #39 -
Nov 24
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, 2010 at 3:09pm
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Since his site is hosted by an American company they have to abide by US Laws.
Besides you might not even need legal action, all you have to do is launch a complaint against the hosting company for hosting pirated software.
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Reply #40 -
Nov 24
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, 2010 at 3:17pm
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Knick wrote
on Nov 24
th
, 2010 at 3:09pm:
Besides you might not even need legal action, all you have to do is launch a complaint against the hosting company for hosting pirated software
I couldn't hurt to try.
I won't be surprised if George and I's FSX Embraer EMB120 gets added to FSPlanet. If it does, somebody's gonna get smacked!
I don't know what the guy who runs the site is getting out of hosting downloads without permission. It's just upsetting hundreds of freeware developers.
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Reply #41 -
Nov 24
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, 2010 at 4:19pm
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Knick wrote
on Nov 24
th
, 2010 at 3:09pm:
Since his site is hosted by an American company they have to abide by US Laws.
Besides you might not even need legal action, all you have to do is launch a complaint against the hosting company for hosting pirated software.
Thank you for your advise
I already try many things , I even post in my website a big yellow warning about this site
all this its a waste of time,I have been very Upset ,I had horrible migrains , I have post everywhere ,I have said this ,and these guys are laughing and laughing ,99.9 % of the servers are in USA (I mean these types of thing games entertainment etc)
I google Piracy+fsplanet and must be like hundreds of complaints ,wake up my friend this guy is in Spain ,I'm not going to start a campaign against this site ,I already work a lot making the model, who knows maybe tomorrow someone will grab this MD 83 and change the read me file and said he did it ,and what can we do about it ? I saw another thread about Ben252 which is Brian Franklin - of Simshed and he humble said
I guess when its release as freeware anyone can do what ever they want
He made his c-130 and some one else "fixed" and upload it again and now was made by other ..you understand what I mean?
there are no rights to freeware designers and I know how this will end ,and BTW Its ending
,Yes ,the pirate site its selling and its earning money ,money I won't ever have cause of my work but others will have it cause of my work ,and this isn't me only
Many people said Ignore ,yes I will,I will ignore from nw on on internet ,in Fact I will ask Mod to please lock this thread ,but I can't and I never Ignore personally because I was the one who spend 4 month sitting in a chair working very hard , making the most beautiful details to make a great airplane .I release it and in 12 hours was making money to Spanish persons and maybe others who knows ..
I'm updating the Citation X ,in fact I'm changing the whole fuselage ,and many things will be replace and many will be add it , I do this because I like it , maybe the pirate will be waiting to earn more money once I release it .
Money I need it ,money that would help me at least to buy a decent video card , this is the world were the bad and smart guys are the winners..
I'm very disappointed in all these thing of freewares ,were
it seems that freeware mean trash
and about youtube videos ,none of the posted videos said anything about where did they get it and who made it ,all they said is Example:
Video
software used :Fraps
Simulator:FSX
Filmmaker: the dushbag names
computer: Dell )(%&&/(//
Aircraft:
freeware
and people asking Where did you get this airplane ? I say it in one and then was delete it
Please admin lock this thread or delete it
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Reply #42 -
Nov 26
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Alrot, freeware devs do have rights.
This pirate is just clearly ignoring them.
Do you see any of your other SimV exclusive work on other sites? (Pretty sure only 2 sites host your work, its SimV and FSPirate to my knowledge)
It's one person clearly breaking it.
The problem is that freeware devs keep asking the pirate to remove their work nicely.
Someone has to go over his head (the hosting company) and complain.
All it takes is a tip that someone is hosting pirated software.
Sure the hosting company will take the fall, but since they obviously have other interests they can give a client a bad rap in the world of hosting.
Who would want to host a website that could bankrupt them?
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Reply #43 -
Nov 27
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Do you see any of your other SimV exclusive work on other sites? (Pretty sure only 2 sites host your work, its SimV and FSPirate to my knowledge)
http://www.simnetwork.com/SIMNETWORK/downloads.php?cat_id=39&rowstart=0
listen ,I don't really bother anymore ,at least they keep my name on it
, as I said ,there are worse things in the freeware world , who knows ? I found this in google by typing md 83 alejandro bla bla bla and this shows up maybe the model is also without designer in other sites who knows ?
Is the freeware word where freeware designers are just a bunch of idiots that works to make something and any one can take credit for this assuming they did
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Nov 27
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For those of you on Facebook, let the public know about FSPlanet's shenanigans!
Whether it's FSX or FS9, there's a fan page for it.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Flight-Simulator-2004/26027368732
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X/109562969069904
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