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Nov 12th, 2010 at 4:38pm

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The S.S. Zamzam is coming from master shipwright Collin Glendinning by special request. Smiley

Zamzam was sunk off the coast of Africa by the German commerce raider Atlantis in 1941.

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Reply #1 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 4:45pm

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The German raiders thought they were sinking a freighter, and got a major shock when some 345 passengers and crew began abandoning ship via the Zam's lifeboats.  Huh

One of those passengers was a Life magazine photographer, and another was my cousin.  She, a young nurse, was enroute to the Congo to do missonary work.   That means there are photos and first hand accounts.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:42pm

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I had a boat like that in the bath the other night... didn't last very long against my special plastic penetrating ammo (.22 steel pellets from the air-pistol) Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 1:19am

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Lena awakened around 5:30AM to the sound of explosions.   Looking out her porthole she saw a ship firing on the Zamzam, which was sailing under an Egyptian flag.
Over 200 passengers and crew of around 120 took to the boats, and were picked up by the German raider Atlantis.  They were on Atlantis for about three days, and then transferred to the Dresden (Atlantis' supply ship).  After a month aboard Dresden they were landed in France, and the Americans taken across the border to Spain, where they were repatriated to the US.

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Reply #4 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 1:36am

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Zamzam was originally SS Leicestershire, a member of the very large Oxford class of liners produced in England.  By the 40s they were serving many countries around the world, including the Japanese....so she can be used in many roles.  Wink
 

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Reply #5 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:11am

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Very interesting TR. I found this photo gallery of SS Zam Zam on the Life Magazine website. http://www.life.com/search/?type=images&q0=ss+zam+zam

They were taken by David E. Scherman, the photographer you mentioned earlier.
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 11:19am

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That is a great set of photos on the LIFE site.  Thanks, Doug.

At the time Atlantis opened fire on Zamzam she (Zamzam) was flying no flag and had no markings on her other than the word 'Mizr' painted on her stack.   In the photos of her sinking she is shown flying the Egyptian flag which was raised in response to the attack.  Egypt was a neutral nation at the time, but the ship was carrying ambulances and drivers (and perhaps other 'cargo') destined for England.  The ambulance drivers were American (20 of them) and they were shipped off to Germany when the Dresden landed in France.   We don't know what happened to them.  Some 140 of the passengers were American missionaries of various faiths and professions bound for Mombasa.

As a boy I was fascinated by Lena's stories of the sinking and of Africa on her trips home.  I asked her what she did in the lifeboat after abandoning the Zamzam.  She said she had her knitting with her.  Cheesy  I asked if she had a rifle in Africa for hunting.  No, she said, just a Daisy BB gun with which she shot leopards in the butt when they attempted to get into the chicken coop at night.  Grin  I would ask how she got around in the Congo....like on safari?  No, she'd show me photos of her old Dodge nudging it's way through a troop of elephants blocking the dirt road.  She said the horn was quite effective in getting them to move.  Huh  Lena Reynolds was a piece of work.  Shocked

Survivors of the Zamzam sinking still hold reunions...of course those remaining alive now were small children at the time.
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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:37pm

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ozzy72 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 5:42pm:
I had a boat like that in the bath the other night...  Grin Grin Grin


"Polishing the ole torpedo eh",
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OK you lot.
She had 11 sisters so far identified, with a possible 8 more.
Those that remained within the Empire shipping circles became troopships or Hospital ships in the Med or out East.
Some , like the Leicestershire had been sold off to other nationalities.

Thanks to links to better photo's provided by hagar'd, the models superstructure is all wrong and a load of crap so I will have to start again Sad

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Reply #8 - Nov 15th, 2010 at 3:39am

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Collin wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:37pm:
OK you lot.
She had 11 sisters so far identified, with a possible 8 more.
Those that remained within the Empire shipping circles became troopships or Hospital ships in the Med or out East.
Some , like the Leicestershire had been sold off to other nationalities.

Thanks to links to better photo's provided by hagar'd, the models superstructure is all wrong and a load of crap so I will have to start again Sad

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Hi Collin. Sorry if I've caused you problems. I found another site for you. The "Shire" sister ships are listed on this & the following page. http://www.red-duster.co.uk/BIBBY12.htm
 

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Reply #9 - Nov 15th, 2010 at 10:11am

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[/quote]Hi Collin. Sorry if I've caused you problems. I found another site for you. The "Shire" sister ships are listed on this & the following page. [/quote]

Thanks you ole reprobate Wink Thats just for the Bibby line, I have photos for 11 of them, though I don't suppose they were very different from each other until late in life, just in painting at various periods.

regards  Collin Cool
 
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It warms my heart to see you two working together again.  Smiley
 

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Reply #11 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 11:14pm

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Due to the mistaken photo's and consequent rebuild, this model has now been allocated as a target vessel for the BPF campaign. Smiley

Meet......."old maru" Roll Eyes

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There were quite a few old liners sold off to Far East countries, Japan and Siam were among them.

Some detail parts to add and more detail to be worked into the texture and she will be ready to receive those loving attentions that naval aviators like to bestow on old glorious gals. Shocked

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She'll make an attractive target.....as well as prettying up the scenery.  Keep on keepin' on. Lad.  Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #13 - Nov 19th, 2010 at 3:31pm

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No fair!  I have to throw my trash away! Undecided

Looks good Collin! Grin
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 19th, 2010 at 4:09pm

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Never mind Pat (you back home now?), we can use this as a IJN Trooper if need be.

Just a bit more to do.

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Reply #15 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:18am

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Extraordinary!   Great detail, Young Man.  Cool
 

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Collin, you do bloody good work.  Cheesy
 
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Back home Collin, check your simv messages!
 
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Reply #18 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 8:38pm

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The Old Maru 45 is nearing completion.   Shown here on her first shakedown cruise, and on her way to the tailor shop for a DP fitting....Saville Row I might add.  Smiley

A bastard filly out of old Zam Zam, she's a beauty in spite of her dubious origins.  She'll probably come with a real wardrobe of deck cargo....and nationalities....ripe for plucking and plunder by packs of marauding Apaches, or fleet class subs.  Grin

Shown here in heavy seas sporting a maxed-out pitch factor.

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While her details and textures are not as yet finished, she is undergoing rigorous DP testing.   Tongue

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OK, Collin has finished the fouled-up initial  Zamzam effort as the Old Maru45 (Shots Below) for use in his long anticipated BPF campaign.  (Talk about a tease...I hate to have to wait for her.Cool

Now we're moving on to the real Zamzam.  Cheesy

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Nov 23rd, 2010 at 1:29am:
OK, Collin has finished the fouled-up initial  Zamzam effort as the Old Maru45 (Shots Below) for use in his long anticipated BPF campaign.Cool

Now we're moving on to the real Zamzam.  Cheesy


OOPS!   Looks like the whole Zamzam thing was just a smokescreen for a fleet of Japanese marus for the Collin's BPF (British Pacific Fleet) Campaign, '45-'49.   Huh

We've been snookered by that sly old reprobate.   It'll go down in the annals of CFS2 as the infamous Zamscam.    Angry  Tongue   Sad   Et tu, Brute?  Cry

Roll Eyes Grin Grin Grin

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Looks great to me!!! and there are more! Super job Collin!
 
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OK, OK already!   You got the Old Maru and now you've finished the IJA Trooper (as seen below...nice landing craft on deck BTW), but those ain't doing us MB types any good....as you are holding them in reserve for your BPF campaign.  Sad

Let's get on with the original project...poor Zamzam, the orphan stepchild.  Grin

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OMG!   It's 'Away all boats!'   Is that Jeff Chandler on the bridge?   Roll Eyes

OK, I give up.  We'll never see Zamzam.  Angry

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Will you guys send me a bottle of whatever you've been drinking?  Grin

Really nice looking, first rate stuff.  Cool
 
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Reply #26 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 12:16pm

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Well, maybe not.   Cry

SS Zamzam has fallen victim to Collin's distraction with the 'on again/off again' BPF campaign and the ships to populate it.  So don't hold your breath for a Zamzam...film whenever.  Grin
 

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 12:16pm:
Well, maybe not.   Cry

SS Zamzam has fallen victim to Collin's distraction with the 'on again/off again' BPF campaign and the ships to populate it.  So don't hold your breath for a Zamzam...film whenever.  Grin


Ya miserable pile of drool, yer get me to make these models then moan when there's a limit to the available slipways. Angry

The next model is now on number 8 hull, for the 1940 version but there will be soon the 1945 BPF version. So stop whining about some old Egyptian liner and get making missions.

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I am awful....I know.  But they're so pretty...I can't help myself.  Embarrassed

Missions.....missions for the BPF?   I'm deeply involved in research to cure my ignorance of the historical background.  Undecided

Looks like HMS Dido is on the ways....RN AAA cruiser, roughly equivalent to the USN Atlanta class.  Cheesy

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