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A Random Query (Read 1039 times)
Nov 7
th
, 2010 at 9:43pm
SeanTK
Ex Member
The fascinating
(to me)
and jealousy inducing ability of many of our members to switch back and forth between their native language and English has caught my attention yet again over the past few days, so I'm wondering:
What languages do you know?
As for me....
I'm a native American English speaker that has difficulty expressing myself.
And, as a victim of the US educational system, I am also capable of
some
French.
Some
...but I'm still not knowledgeable enough in it for using the language to be practical.
Language goals:
Learn......Norwegian, Danish, and Swedish (Norwegian priority), along with Dutch, and maybe focus back on French later.
-Sean
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Nov 7
th
, 2010 at 9:56pm
patchz
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I am also a native American and speak some English, but am well versed in Redneck. I also know a few phrases in Spanish, most of which can not be used here.
Since I do not travel outside the country, I have always been of the school that says to let them learn English. If I were to migrate to a non-English speaking country, I would feel compelled to learn the language. Just sayin'.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Nov 7
th
, 2010 at 10:13pm
skoker
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American English, English English, some Spanish, some Swedish, bit of polish, and "Buffalonian" apparently is what they call my regional dialect.
What the hell is soda? It's pop to me!
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Nov 7
th
, 2010 at 10:30pm
patchz
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skoker wrote
on Nov 7
th
, 2010 at 10:13pm:
American English, English English, some Spanish, some Swedish, bit of polish, and "Buffalonian" apparently is what they call my regional dialect.
What the hell is soda? It's pop to me!
Back in the day, it was soda pop, but we always just said, "wanna get a Coke?".
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 11:23am
DaveSims
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I am English speaking, although I did grow up in Southern Mississippi y'all. I took the obligatory French and Spanish in high school, although now I just get the two mixed up and can't speak either (I can understand a small amount of each, if you speak slow enough). The girlfriend bought us the Rosetta Stone French this past year since she wants to visit France, but neither of us has had time to really give it a go.
Dave
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 11:35am
H
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skoker wrote
on Nov 7
th
, 2010 at 10:13pm:
It's pop to me!
Your father was a short little fellow to fit in a bottle...
wee suppose he wears a pop-top cap?
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 12:00pm
machineman9
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English, some Spanish, and how to talk sh*t
@Soda... Goodness, that stuff tastes awful!
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 12:21pm
specter177
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I speak
Southern
, ya'll!
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 1:04pm
Fozzer
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I am forever glad that I was born in England, and learned the beautiful, now almost universal, English language...
...!
I only know English, and can only speak English, (with a slight Cockney (London) accent)...
...!
I have the utmost admiration for Folks who's natural language is not English, but can speak, and write in English fluently!
We have many of them here on the Site!
I love listening to non English folks around the World speaking in English....(apart from certain places...
..
....)...!
They put many of we, natural; "English-speakers" to shame!
It is a confusing and complicated language, and difficult to master correctly, with many words having different spellings and different meanings!
For such a small/minute Country, such as England, I am always just amazed how Universal the English Language has become over the Centuries!
I am very proud of it......and I love it to bits!...
...!
Paul...Cor, blimey, Guv!...
...
...!
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 2:05pm
expat
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Born and bred with the English language, but living and working in Germany (12 years now), needs are a must I learnt to speak German, (unlike a lot of people who moved to this country, but that is another story) Consequently, my children are bilingual, my wife is German. It still blows me away how my children swap between the languages as if it is the most normal thing in the world, I suppose for them it is. I murder the German language on a hourly basis, as my wife says, "your not thick, your just English"
but they let me have duel nationality, so it can't be that bad
I have to say that native English speakers on a whole are the lazy-ist people in the world when it comes to learning a second language. More people in my small circle of friends here in Germany speak an second language than all the people I have ever known in the UK. My wife speaks English to the standard of mother tongue (ascent too, you would never know she was German if you spoke to here), French and some Spanish. My in-laws both speak English and French fluently and my sister in Law speaks fluent English, French, Spanish and as she puts, gets by in Italian
Matt
PETA
People Eating Tasty Animals.
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Nov 8
th
, 2010 at 2:31pm
Crash
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Ok. My native language is Dutch ofcourse but since we are brainwashed from childhood to learn other languages I also speak fluent English and German, I can make myself understood in French, I can read Swedish, Danish and Norwegian (although it's a little). I can order food and drinks in Spanish and Italian and I know a few words in Bini (local Nigerian language), which is the native language of my wife.
Carlo
(Beware, I know karate..... and 7 other Japanese words)
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 4:14am
Leigh
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its the journey."
somewhere over the rainbow
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Australian??
what a beaut barbie even a drongo could use it
hehehehe i shall get my coat
oh and a tad of swedish
mostly swear words and happy birthday
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 4:40am
BigTruck
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Being from the Upper Penninsula of Michigan, I speak Yooper. Don't know what that is? Look it up
I drink pop and beer, and I eat Pasties. However, being a Marine I have been around the world a few times, so I know a little Japanese, a little Arabic, a little Korean, and from living in Hawaii and California, I know some Hawaiian and Mexican.
Amongst my travels, I met and married my beautiful wife from Alabama, so I am also fluent in southern and redneck and even know a little hillbilly.
When I drink I tend to mix them all up in a single sentence
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 5:06am
Fozzer
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Hereford. England. EGBS.
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When I was at School in the 1930's and 1940's we were only taught the English language (to perfection!), and as the rest of the British Commonwealth (ie; the rest of the World!) also spoke English, we had no need to learn another language!
Our Language over here is now being corrupted by the English Residents mimicking "Americanisms"* (thinking its clever!), .....and various Aliens which are moving in and slowly taking over the Country...
...!
Its no longer the beautiful language which I recognise from my School days!....which is a terrible shame!
Paul....in another time...and another place!...
....!
* Every time I hear an Englishman (often from the BBC!) utter the disparaging words; "Guy(s), and "Cool", "Dude", "Gimme five!", etc etc, my toes curl up!...
...!
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 5:12am
Triple_7
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Currently English, and English only. Though Indiana dialect around here is a mix of southern twang with a northern influence. Far from proper English
Trying to learn Mandarin Chinese, not going well, only understand a few simple words. Have the Rosetta Stone Mandarin but quite frankly have found it totally useless for this language, it would be a big help but first need to actually learn the basic words first, it starts right out in lesson one with pictures and short sentences....I can pick out some of the single words but can't figure out what the others are, so I'm stuck. Unfortunately my favorite Taiwanese girl has let her English slip beyond where she can help me decipher some of it
Its difficult to figure out...example from early in the lesson....I know horse is
馬
, or MA. And
一
, or YI is 1. But what the heck is the middle word
All I understand from it it "One ?? Horse" Its every single set like this and its only the first part of lesson one
Its one thing to teach through immersion into the language but totally pointless without some kind of beginners translation to get the basics down to understand it all.
Would take years typing random words into a translator to figure out each character
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 5:40am
Fozzer
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Hereford. England. EGBS.
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The Folks I love listening to, are lovely, native, African Ladies, and native Indians (from India), speaking "English" to absolute perfection!
Paul...
...!
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 7:33am
patchz
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What, me worry?
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Quote:
Currently English, and English only. Though Indiana dialect around here is a mix of southern twang with a northern influence. Far from proper English
Trying to learn Mandarin Chinese, not going well, only understand a few simple words. Have the Rosetta Stone Mandarin but quite frankly have found it totally useless for this language, it would be a big help but first need to actually learn the basic words first, it starts right out in lesson one with pictures and short sentences....I can pick out some of the single words but can't figure out what the others are, so I'm stuck. Unfortunately my favorite Taiwanese girl has let her English slip beyond where she can help me decipher some of it
Its difficult to figure out...example from early in the lesson....I know horse is
馬
, or MA. And
一
, or YI is 1. But what the heck is the middle word
All I understand from it it "One ?? Horse" Its every single set like this and its only the first part of lesson one
Its one thing to teach through immersion into the language but totally pointless without some kind of beginners translation to get the basics down to understand it all.
Would take years typing random words into a translator to figure out each character
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One white horse?
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 9:22am
Jeff.Guo
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It's an article that works with "one", its not quite a flavor word (like "like" in English) but it doesn't add any additional meaning. These vary quite a bit, based on the noun that is used.
...and yup, fluent in American and Mandarin, and can hold my own with German (although I'm frequently ridiculed for butchering it). And when I'm drunk, I can do Aussie, Scottish, and Spanglish.
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 9:52am
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I speak fluent American English. Sadly, most people around me do not speak
fluently
. I often find myself having to re-phrase my sentences to eliminate the words that people in this town don't understand. Basically I don't speak redneck.
I took Spanish class in high school, but I don't remember learning any useful phrases. If I'm ever in Mexico I can request a broom so that I can clean, but that's about it.
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 5:39pm
H
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"I am a native American" would better be said "I am a native-born American" because of the definitive term Native American, which is also part of my ancestry... although I know but a little of the affiliated languages aside from meanings of some tribal or local place names -- and I have a copy of an Abenaki (= Dawn People or People of the East) version of The Lord's Prayer on my home computer.
As long as I have the means for procurement, I can also ask for certain food items in French, Spanish or German without having to point at said items.
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 7:29pm
patchz
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What, me worry?
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H wrote
on Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 5:39pm:
"I am a native American" would better be said "I am a native-born American" because of the definitive term Native American, which is also part of my ancestry... although I know but a little of the affiliated languages aside from meanings of some tribal or local place names -- and I have a copy of an Abenaki (= Dawn People or People of the East) version of The Lord's Prayer on my home computer.
As long as I have the means for procurement, I can also ask for certain food items in French, Spanish or German without having to point at said items.
I too, am a native born American and part native American. My great, great grandfather was a Cherokee Chief, so I have been told. Alas, I have never had the funds to research properly.
If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 9:32pm
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One of the better threads. As a youngster, I spoke fluent Scottish. It seems the further north you travel on the 'Blessed Isle', the less the language sounds like the original. Not a problem as long as I remained well north of Berwick on Tweed. Only when transplanted from Edinburgh to Denver did I realize not everyone spoke Scottish. Hearing 'where did you learn to speak English', 'what a cute brogue' and 'listen to that darling accent' wore fairly thin fairly fast. The thing that helped me, as a Brit in a new land, was education. My Scot schooling, three languages - four if you include Scottish, had me ready to graduate American high school at fifteen but, it was pointed out, the American version of many words didn't include a 'u'. After fifty seven years, the rolling 'RRR' is history but I still pause for the double 'oo' sound. My sisters, from Newcastle and Coventry, were over visiting a couple of years ago and both remarked I spoke surprisingly good English for an American
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THIS IS NOT A PANAM CLIPPER
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Nov 9
th
, 2010 at 11:39pm
Triple_7
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Quote:
One white horse?
I thought that at first too...but after using a couple different translators I came up with white as
白
and pronounced PIE instead of PEE like the mystery character
Quote:
It's an article that works with "one", its not quite a flavor word (like "like" in English) but it doesn't add any additional meaning. These vary quite a bit, based on the noun that is used.
That's where I get confused, the fillers like this case are in everything, to early in the learning process to throw those in, so far I can pick up on the main word without a problem most of the time. But in one set the 4 pictures are of the same person doing different things, those fillers throw me off every time. Would be nice to find a resource that is similar setup to Rosetta but only shows one word at a time instead of a full or partial sentence. I would like to learn how to read and write Mandarin but right now my main goal is get to a point where I can speak enough to get by then improve from there. Those extra words will not fit into every sentence so they are nothing more then a pointless obstacle at this point
To much confusion right now
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Nov 11
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English, and a few "choice" words in many other tounges. (Naughty words in Polish, Russian, Arabic, French and German.)
Holding my tounge!
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