Simviation Forum - Goldilocks....

Sep 29^th, 2010 at 11:26pm

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planet. In the neighborhood and deemed habitable, maybe. But science has been wrong before. Roll Eyes

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_sc/us_sci_new_earths

If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.

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Reply #1 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 12:11am

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I think the United States should immediately allocate a bazillion dollars to investigate this.

And another bazillion dollars to investigate every "potentially habitable" planet that may be discovered in the future.

The fact that nothing approaching life has been found on Venus or Mars should not dissuade us in the least.

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Reply #2 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 6:12am

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We discussed this in Physics earlier. I came to the conclusion that it was rather crazy. I don't know how it's possible for something that distant to have any recognition.

It could easily be a 2000 year mistake if they decided to go there, but I must admit, it would be very 'cool' to go there if it was the perfect place.

Now lets hope their dinosaurs are also extinct!

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Reply #3 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:38am

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120 trillion miles = 20 light years, assuming I entered the numbers in correctly. (onlineconversion.com).

So, Warp 10 gets us there in what? Two years? Or are warp speeds logarithmic?

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Reply #4 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:23am

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Apex wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:38am:

120 trillion miles = 20 light years, assuming I entered the numbers in correctly. (onlineconversion.com).

So, Warp 10 gets us there in what? Two years? Or are warp speeds logarithmic?

The shuttle in orbit goes at around 17000mph, so it would take about 7 million years to get there.

Apollo 11 went at around 24000mph which isn't much faster.

Some time-warping device may get there far sooner.

So yeah, you'd need some insanely fast vessel, or age preserving cryo, or a wormhole, to get there. Chances are when you did get to the planet (even if it took 1000 years on a supermassive space ship which had plants, animals, etc) you'd just die on the planet (without sufficient gravitational force on the vessel) from weak bones or be unable to live from their land, but I think it's more likely that most people would die from lack of independence. After 1000 years of Chinese whispers of how-to-survive would just not work.

So I think it would definately depend on bringing us, the people here and now, to that planet, in order to survive. Which would require a wormhole or age preserving (and hopefully memory) cryo.

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Reply #5 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 11:03am

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I am always highly relived when I wake up, each and every morning, from Fantasy-Land, once again.... Wink

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Far too many Star-Trek, Time Travellers, out there for me to cope with... Wink

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Reply #6 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 12:10pm

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You mean your Honda doesn't have a warp speed button Paul? I'd complain, mind did... used to scare the hell out of me Grin

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Reply #7 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 1:12pm

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ozzy72 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 12:10pm:

You mean your Honda doesn't have a warp speed button Paul? I'd complain, mind did... used to scare the hell out of me Grin

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The vivid imagination required by me, of pressing the "Warp-Speed Button" on my Motorcycle handlebars, is equivalent to the vivid imagination required of certain Human Beings, in the subject of; "Time/Space Travel".... Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 1:47pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 1:12pm:

ozzy72 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 12:10pm:

You mean your Honda doesn't have a warp speed button Paul? I'd complain, mind did... used to scare the hell out of me Grin

LOL....

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The vivid imagination required by me, of pressing the "Warp-Speed Button" on my Motorcycle handlebars, is equivalent to the vivid imagination required of certain Human Beings, in the subject of; "Time/Space Travel".... Roll Eyes

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Paul..."Beam me up, Scotty!".... Cool

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My '79 XS11 had one Paul. They called it a 'throttle' and if twisted as far as it would go and held in place, you would think you were in worm hole, no imagination needed. Roll Eyes

If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.

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Reply #9 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 6:50pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 11:03am:

I am always highly relived when I wake up...

Did you intend to print 'relieved' or are you just happily reliving everything day after day?

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Reply #10 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 7:42pm

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I think if we got there and survived, we would be very flat people. Sort of like a pancake with a face on top and wee little legs underneath.

Without the all the earthly spinning, could gravity change? Undecided

Flying with twins is a lot of fun..

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Reply #11 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:31pm

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If you had a very large craft large enough to inhabit for the 1,000 year journey(or however long it took); and you spun the craft at a speed to replicate earth's G-force, and then slowly increase the speed or rotation to match the destination planet's gravity so we would be accustomed to that planet's gravity, would that work?

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Reply #12 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 11:19pm

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That sounds like Soviet eugenics.

It didn't work very well.

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Reply #13 - Oct 1^st, 2010 at 6:00am

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RaptorF22 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:31pm:

If you had a very large craft large enough to inhabit for the 1,000 year journey(or however long it took); and you spun the craft at a speed to replicate earth's G-force, and then slowly increase the speed or rotation to match the destination planet's gravity so we would be accustomed to that planet's gravity, would that work?

Yes, it would. If the living quarters were around the circumference of a 'large spinning disc on a space ship' then over time you'd just get used to it.

The gravitational acceleration on Earth is approx. 9.81ms^2. On a planet approx. 3.5 times larger (they say 3-4 times) it is likely to be around 34ms^2, which is roughly 3.5g. That is, if the density of 'Goldi' is the same as the density of Earth.

Over 1000 years? Yeah, that would be fine. Pilots get used to hanging around at several g after practising for a few years. This would only be going up 0.0035g per year.

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Reply #14 - Oct 1^st, 2010 at 7:08am

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H wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 6:50pm:

Fozzer wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 11:03am:

I am always highly relived when I wake up...

Did you intend to print 'relieved' or are you just happily reliving everything day after day?

Nope, H... Wink

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The thought of "reliving" everything in my past, day after day, is a thought too awful to contemplate!.... Shocked

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I would be very "relieved" if that didn't happen too often!... Huh

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All this talk of "Space Stuff", makes me very thankful to be sat in my Garden, on a warm Summer day!....on Planet Earth!... Cool

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Paul.... Wink

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