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Jul 26th, 2010 at 6:43am

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This nasty  little process that was introduced a couple of builds ago,
has started causing me non-stop issues with Youtube,
and any other flash based app.
Every time I open the Task Manager and disable it,
I lose the ability to run Flash apps,
and blocking it with the Firewall gives the same problem,
so it must remain on in order to use any Flash apps.


I've scoured their site looking for a solution,
or a way to disable it, and like any proud parent,
they refuse to acknowledge that it's their fault,
and just go on blaming the users and their systems for the faults.  Roll Eyes

I'm wondering if anyone here has figured out a solution to this, and if not,
what a viable browser alternative is,
that would allow me to run addons like FireFox does. 

If no such alternative exists,
does anyone happen to know what the last version of FireFox was before this hellish process was added?

There is NO WAY to disable it,
and retain Flash functionality,
at least according to the FireFox team,
and they say that it is here to stay.  Cry
 
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Reply #1 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 8:11am

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Ugh, I've been trying to figure out how to disable it too. I have had to start avoiding flash sites when using my laptop, because it becomes laggy as hell. Angry
 

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Reply #2 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 9:06am

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Why do you want to disable it?
I'm pretty sure it's the thing that handles all the FireFox plug-ins, including the flash plug-in. I don't belive FireFox has the ability to handle flash on it's own.
 

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Reply #3 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 9:09am

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RaptorF22 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 9:06am:
Why do you want to disable it?


I thought I had made my reason clear in my first post.  Wink








RaptorF22 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 9:06am:
I'm pretty sure it's the thing that handles all the FireFox plug-ins, including the flash plug-in. I don't belive FireFox has the ability to handle flash on it's own.



Firefox 3.3 and earlier used to handle plug-ins just fine.  Wink

Firefox 3.4 and later has added this new process, which activates outside of FF, and causes a pretty big hit on my CPU & Ram while using Flash apps.
The whole purpose of the plug-in container.exe, is to make just the plug-in crash instead of all of FireFox, instead, it
causes firefox to freeze up.  Angry

Do a google search, and you'll see that I'm just one of millions of unhappy firefox users who want to disable this thing.  Roll Eyes


 
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Reply #4 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:39pm

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I've got Opera and Maxthon to use as my alternative Browsers, if I have problems with Firefox.

The only trouble is, they are considerably slower.

Paul.

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Reply #5 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:46pm

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I also noticed this recently. I'm not sure what it does or if it's harmful but ZoneAlarm tells me when it wants to run & I deny it access. This doesn't seem to affect websites like YouTube in any way. Like Paul, I have alternative browsers if I run into problems with Firefox.
 

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Reply #6 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:23pm

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Hagar wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:46pm:
I'm not sure what it does or if it's harmful. This doesn't seem to affect websites like YouTube in any way.



See my second post above.

or

One of the many threads at Mozilla about it:

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/1/704242



It's not as bad with build 3.8 as it was with 3.6 & 3.7, but it still happens.


Most of my issues with it occur when I have two pages open at once on both of my monitors, and at least one (more frequently both) of them have a flash application.

The plugin-container.exe will cause Firefox to hang up,
and the flash apps will freeze up, and then everything needs to be shut down through the task manager,
and the browser restarted.

I am going to try blocking it like you have then,
but from what I had read this morning,
you're not supposed to be able to use Youtube if it's blocked.
But obviously, you've got it going on.


 
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Reply #7 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 3:06am

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I'm with you on plugin-container.exe as a nasty part of FF.

I am currently restarting FF after an extended period of use just to avoid the crash.
 

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Reply #8 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 3:43am

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ShaneG wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:23pm:
I am going to try blocking it like you have then,
but from what I had read this morning,
you're not supposed to be able to use Youtube if it's blocked.
But obviously, you've got it going on.

Please let me know what happens. It might depend on your OS. I'm on XP & still using  3.6.8 which I thought was the current version. Since installing the latest updates I've noticed that Firefox locks up more than it used to. Not sure if this is connected with the subject of this topic. Undecided

I've always liked Firefox but if I have problems with it I'll just use Chrome or Opera instead.
 

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Reply #9 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:28am

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Is it easy to zip back and install previous (trouble-free) versions of Firefox?
My attempts insist on recommending the latest version!... Angry...!

Paul...Win XP SP2...+ Firefox v3.5.6.... Roll Eyes...!

(Newer is not always better!).... Wink...!
 

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Reply #10 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:44am

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Fozzer wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:28am:
(Newer is not always better!).... Wink...!



EXACTLY!!!  Grin Grin  Smiley



I can't seem to block it, and what I've had to resort to,
is leaving the task manager open, and manually shutting it down
whenever I leave a page that required it.

I'm also on XP, pro SP3 (and staying that way on this system.  Wink )

I'm really considering switching browsers now,
as soon as I find one that will run the addons that I've grown to depend on with FireFox,
or do as Paul has, and revert back to a previous version that didn't include this infernal addon.

Much like my switch from AVG to Windows Security Essentials,
it may just be that FireFox has grown into the very thing I replaced -

a bloated, full of it self, resource hogging monster.  Cry

 
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Reply #11 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 6:08am

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Every now and again I have to go into:

Firefox:
Tools > Add-ons >

Extensions.
Plug-ins.
etc...

And Remove  or Disable certain ones to prevent various problems!.... Shocked....!

Some Plug-ins and Extensions are more trouble than they are worth!... Wink....!

Paul...in desperate need of a new extension... Wink... Wink...!
 

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Reply #12 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 6:14am

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Fozzer wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:28am:
Is it easy to zip back and install previous (trouble-free) versions of Firefox?
My attempts insist on recommending the latest version!... Angry...!

Paul...Win XP SP2...+ Firefox v3.5.6.... Roll Eyes...!

(Newer is not always better!).... Wink...!

Have you tried oldversion.com? http://www.oldversion.com/Mozilla_Firefox.html
 

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Reply #13 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 6:23am

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Hagar wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 6:14am:
Fozzer wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 4:28am:
Is it easy to zip back and install previous (trouble-free) versions of Firefox?
My attempts insist on recommending the latest version!... Angry...!

Paul...Win XP SP2...+ Firefox v3.5.6.... Roll Eyes...!

(Newer is not always better!).... Wink...!

Have you tried oldversion.com? http://www.oldversion.com/Mozilla_Firefox.html


Ta, Doug... Wink...!

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Paul.... Smiley...!

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