Simviation Forum - A sign of the times....

Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 9:26am

Fozzer Offline
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A sign of the times, from Abacus...>>>

http://www.abacuspub.com/arnie/blog/?p=55

P.C Software sales falling of, affecting PC Software Distributors and Retail Stockists.

Paul.

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...since 1978.

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Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 6:15pm

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Interesting that some of the comments think that losing the retailers is losing the middle man and reducing the costs. The new middle man is the shipping and delivery poeple, of whom can have ten times the quirks a retailer has. Undecided

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Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 6:37pm

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My local "Game" Store only stocks a handful of PC games now, with very poor sales.

Their shelves are stocked full of Consoles, Console games, and Console accessories now!

Paul.

http://www.game.co.uk/

Consoles, the way to go for the future?..... Roll Eyes

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Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 7:09pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 6:37pm:

My local "Game" Store only stocks a handful of PC games now, with very poor sales.

Their shelves are stocked full of Consoles, Console games, and Console accessories now!

Paul.

http://www.game.co.uk/

Consoles, the way to go for the future?..... Roll Eyes

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Same here Paul, The Wii, Playstation, etc, shelves are packed with games. I'm giving my my pc a hug tonight and tell it every things going to be ok.. Kiss

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Reply #4 - Jul 23^rd, 2010 at 6:48am

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Steve M wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 7:09pm:

Fozzer wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 6:37pm:

My local "Game" Store only stocks a handful of PC games now, with very poor sales.

Their shelves are stocked full of Consoles, Console games, and Console accessories now!

Paul.

http://www.game.co.uk/

Consoles, the way to go for the future?..... Roll Eyes

....!

Same here Paul, The Wii, Playstation, etc, shelves are packed with games. I'm giving my my pc a hug tonight and tell it every things going to be ok.. Kiss

..the funny thing is....

Apart from using my PC as an E-mail/search/information engine....

.....its only other use is for the various Flight Sims, and my 18 Wheels of Steel truck simulators.... Shocked

...!

I have a number (zillions) of other types of PC games, but rarely, if ever, play them nowadays... Roll Eyes

...!

So, for that purpose, a Console would be perfectly adequate to play them...maybe even better?

I look on the PC Games shelves, and quite honestly, I cant see anything now that I would fancy purchasing!.....
...probably, because I've already played all their "look-alikes" in the past!

Long ago, my delight was hacking into the code of PC Games (Spectrum/Commodore/Amstrad, etc) to obtain invincibility, infinite weapons, God mode, etc, to enable me to complete them.
That was not possible with the old Consoles...
...maybe its different with the new Consoles regarding; "Cheat Modes"?

Paul..The Worlds Greatest Cheat!...256 Levels?...no problem!... Grin

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Looks like its a bad time for PC Games Designers and Distributors...or not?

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Reply #5 - Jul 23^rd, 2010 at 9:04pm

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Apparently, your retailers are well over 10 years behind the times compared to ours, that, or your consumers are.

It's near impossible to find many, if any computer games in a store here, it's been 99% console gaming since at least the 1990's, (well, at least in Texas, Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky where I've lived, visited, and shopped since 1991)

Once the Playstation 1 came out here, it was the beginning of the end for retail sold computer games in the US(see previous location disclaimer above).

The two local gaming stores here, Game Stop, and EB Games,
stopped selling Computer games altogether in the early 2000's, and now,
even Walmart & Best Buy have drastically cut back due to lack of sales as compared to their console cousins.
(That was the reason I was given when I had first purchased a computer and went looking for good games)

Times change, and console games, are
easier to use, cheaper to run, and more available to the average gamer than their computer based versions.

I'm a proud member of the 'console generation'. Cool

From my first Atari 2600 to my latest PS3, I've had them all, and loved every one.
Through out all of those years of console gaming,
computers were too expensive to buy,
and even more crippling to the wallet,
if you wanted one that would at least match the performance of a console.

Today, that still holds true,
and in these tougher economic times,
the computer gaming segment is going to pay dearly for that.
My PS3 games become cheaper and more plentiful,
and run just as well as they always have,
while computer games remain hard to find,
and require constant hardware upgrades to run even at the basic levels.

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Reply #6 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 8:11am

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All that may be true, but I do not ascribe to the console path. I have a PS2 and played GT4 for over a year. But since I found SimV, I have only played it once or twice. I bought some PS2 WWII fighter game, but without a 40" plus screen, it was just too difficult due to the size of the foe aircraft displayed. And I find the controls more difficult than a joystick for flight. I did learn to use them quite well with GT4, as my son, Tech Support will tell you. I beat him and his buds on a regular basis. I have no plans to purchase any more games for the PS2, nor a PS3 or any other system. I also play EA Sports Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 on the pc, as well as Virtual Pool 3. And I have Myst, Riven, and Exile, which I have yet to install. I just can't pull myself away from FSX long enough. Roll Eyes

Consoles may the way of the future, but my future is.....limited. Grin

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Reply #7 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:00pm

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That's thing that keeps it from being altogether cheaper.. Everyone I know with a console is using it on a large screen tv.

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Reply #8 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:09pm

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patchz wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 8:11am:

Consoles may be the way of the future, but my future is.....limited. Grin

That was a fitting statement in the 1980s and early 1990s, today, consoles are the industry standard that computer games have to live up to. Wink

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