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May 11^th, 2010 at 4:32pm

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Okay, I fly the POSKY BBJ2 (737-800) with a default panel and VC merge all the time, and I have a few questions:

1. Each time I fly, I start with the plane totally shut down. I have downloaded a great checklist for the 737, but when I start up the jet, it seems ot miss a step. How do I turn on the autopilot and radio from the panel or VC without pressing Ctrl-E?

2. How come the heading on the GPS and the heading on the plane's screen differ?

3. Why do the times on the plane and the times on the GPS differ? I assume it has something to do with time zones.

4. How do you turn on the red and green lights on the wings from the panel/VC?

Thanks for any answers.

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Reply #1 - May 11^th, 2010 at 5:48pm

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B-Valvs wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

Each time I fly, I start with the plane totally shut down.

I have a question, how do you do that? I have always wondered if there was a way to do that!

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Reply #2 - May 11^th, 2010 at 7:11pm

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1&4- The default 737 panel sucks and does not include these switches.

2- GPS shows true North, panel shows Magnetic north. Hence the panel showing "HDG 108 MAG" MAG= magnetic

3. GPS is showing local time. Mass is 4 hours behind GMT hence the panel at 20:19(GMT) and the GPS showing an arrival of 16:31(EST) which is 4 hours behind GMT.

Hope this helped!

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Reply #3 - May 11^th, 2010 at 7:21pm

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BAW0343 wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 7:11pm:

1&4- The default 737 panel sucks and does not include these switches.

2- GPS shows true North, panel shows Magnetic north. Hence the panel showing "HDG 108 MAG" MAG= magnetic

3. GPS is showing local time. Mass is 4 hours behind GMT hence the panel at 20:19(GMT) and the GPS showing an arrival of 16:31(EST) which is 4 hours behind GMT.

Hope this helped!

Okay thanks. Too bad about the panel.

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Reply #4 - May 11^th, 2010 at 7:24pm

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FuturePilot wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 5:48pm:

B-Valvs wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

Each time I fly, I start with the plane totally shut down.

I have a question, how do you do that? I have always wondered if there was a way to do that!

Start a flight. Turn everything in the plane off, empty the tanks and payload if you want. Save it that way. In the main FSX menu, go to load flight, click once on your flight you just saved, then check off the box that says "Set to default flight" or something like that. Now all of your flights will start in the same state as the saved file, including plane, airport, time of day, weather, etc.

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Reply #5 - May 11^th, 2010 at 7:52pm

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2- GPS shows true North, panel shows Magnetic north. Hence the panel showing "HDG 108 MAG" MAG= magnetic

The Heading indicator is a magnetic, obviously it's the magnetic heading..

See the 'TRK' next to the 113 on the GPS ? That's your track.

Look back at the heading MFD.. you'll see the wind = 339@26

That's why the difference between heading and track

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Reply #6 - May 11^th, 2010 at 11:15pm

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BAW0343 wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 7:11pm:

1&4- The default 737 panel sucks and does not include these switches.

Are there key commands for those functions though?

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Reply #7 - May 11^th, 2010 at 11:18pm

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B-Valvs wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 7:24pm:

FuturePilot wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 5:48pm:

B-Valvs wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

Each time I fly, I start with the plane totally shut down.

I have a question, how do you do that? I have always wondered if there was a way to do that!

Start a flight. Turn everything in the plane off, empty the tanks and payload if you want. Save it that way. In the main FSX menu, go to load flight, click once on your flight you just saved, then check off the box that says "Set to default flight" or something like that. Now all of your flights will start in the same state as the saved file, including plane, airport, time of day, weather, etc.

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Ok, thanks!

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Reply #8 - May 12^th, 2010 at 3:24am

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B-Valvs wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 11:15pm:

BAW0343 wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 7:11pm:

1&4- The default 737 panel sucks and does not include these switches.

Are there key commands for those functions though?

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Yes there are for "Avionics." That should get you the desired results, and its in the buttons settings. As far as the Nav lights. I haven't seen a way to turn just them on so what I do is hit L and turn off everything you don't need. Not the best but whatever.

Thanks for the further clarification on the track heading Brett! Forgot about that Cool

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Reply #9 - May 12^th, 2010 at 3:57am

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BAW0343 wrote on May 11^th, 2010 at 7:11pm:

1&4- The default 737 panel sucks and does not include these switches.

2- GPS shows true North, panel shows Magnetic north. Hence the panel showing "HDG 108 MAG" MAG= magnetic

3. GPS is showing local time. Mass is 4 hours behind GMT hence the panel at 20:19(GMT) and the GPS showing an arrival of 16:31(EST) which is 4 hours behind GMT.

Hope this helped!

The cockpit clock shows UTC not GMT. GMT has not been used since 1 January 1972 Cheesy

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Reply #10 - May 12^th, 2010 at 10:11am

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I have created a work-around for the nav-lights in the default 737 so I can turn them on with a cockpit switch as needed at any time.

Notice the left-most light switch called "Logo". This switch controls light-type #9 which is not used for anything. Edit your Aircraft.cfg file and in the [LIGHTS] section, change the type-3 lights to type-9 as follows:

light.0 = 9, -25.00, -56.60, 3.90, fx_navredm ,
light.1 = 9, -25.00, 56.60, 3.90, fx_navgrem ,

This will immediately let you work the Nav lights from the overhead panel using the LOGO switch.

Now if you are willing to get into some graphics editing you can get rid of the "LOGO" label and change it to say "NAV". Go to the directory called "texture" and open the two files called B737_800_2.dds and B737_800_2_night.dds. These two files are the background of the overhead panel for day and night. Make your changes and copy the two files (if needed) into other 737 texture directories.

Here are what my changes look like:

Since I only fly with a Virtual Cockpit, I haven't bothered to edit the 2D version. To do so, I would have to modify the graphics in the cabinet file called B737_800.cab and then rebuild it. I will eventually do this when I release my next bug fix of the 737 avionics (like I did for the A321 and CRJ-700 last month).

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Reply #11 - May 12^th, 2010 at 6:33pm

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I can handle the cfg editing, but could you email me those texture files if I give you my email address?

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Thought I could handle the cfg editing, but I'm a little confused. I'm using the POSKY version, so does that make anything different? Here's the lights section from the cfg:

Quote:

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing, 6=taxi, 7=recognition, 8=wing, 9=logo

light.1 = 1, 1.600, 0.000, -4.500, Opensky_beacon ,
light.2 = 1, 9.300, 0.400, 9.300, Opensky_beacon ,
light.3 = 4, 57.000, 0.000, 3.500, Opensky_Boeing_vclight ,
light.4 = 3, 30.000, 0.000, -3.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // front cargo
light.5 = 3, -33.000, 0.000, -2.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // rear cargo
light.6 = 3, 40.000, 0.000, 4.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // pax door
light.7 = 8, 14.000, -36.000, 5.000, Opensky_wing_light , // wing/LE slat rays from inspection lights
light.8 = 8, 14.000, 35.000, 5.000, Opensky_wing_light , // wing/LE slat rays from inspection lights
light.9 = 8, 25.400, -6.200, 2.100, Opensky_nav_yellow , // flap inspection light
light.10= 8, 25.400, 6.200, 2.100, Opensky_nav_yellow , // flap inspection light
light.11= 5, 30.000, -6.200, -1.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // wing/LE slat rays from inspection lights
light.12= 5, 30.000, 6.200, -1.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // wing/LE slat rays from inspection lights
light.13= 8, 23.000, -12.500, -2.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // wing/LE slat rays from inspection lights
light.14= 8, 23.000, 12.500, -2.000, Opensky_nacelle_refl , // wing/LE slat rays from inspection lights
light.15= 6, 60.000, 0.000, -12.550, Opensky-taxi-refl , // gear bay taxi light rays from taxi lights
light.16= 3, -62.000, 0.000, 7.000, Opensky_nav_yellow , // Tail Nav Light
light.17= 2, -62.000, 0.000, 7.000, fx_strobeh , // Tail Strobe Light
light.16=5, 13.4, -8.00, -0.88 , fx_siroccogtx2_reflectors
light.17=5, 13.4, 8.00, -0.88 , fx_siroccogtx2_reflectors
light.18=6, 48.7, 0.00, -6.50 , fx_siroccogtx2_reflectors

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Reply #12 - May 12^th, 2010 at 7:24pm

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B-Valves, I would be very happy to send you the files. However, I don't know how you could use them in the posky model unless you are using the stock 737 virtual cockpit. I'm not very familiar with posky aircraft, but I will help you if I can.

Do you get any nav lights if you issue the "L" keyboard command? If so, that means the nav lights are integrated in the model itself because they are definitely not defined in aircraft.cfg. Usually a model that has flex wings embeds those lights directly in the model because the ones defined in aircraft.cfg will not move with the wing. If this is the case, there really isn't anything that you can do.

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Reply #13 - May 12^th, 2010 at 7:32pm

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I am using the default VC and panel and there are NAV lights already on the plane.

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Reply #14 - May 12^th, 2010 at 8:56pm

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OK, here is what we can do. The Nav lights built into the plane should be type-3 lights. There is no way to toggle this in the 737 VC. However, we CAN toggle a type-9 light using the logo switch. So with a simple XML file installed as a gauge, we can turn on the type-3 light every time the type-9 light is turned on. Here is the XML code that I just wrote:

Code:

<Gauge Name="LogoAndNav" Version="1.0">
	<Comment>
	Gauge to automatically turn on light type 3 (nav)
	when light type 9 (Logo) is turned on
	</Comment>

<Update Frequency="6"/>

<Element>
	<Select>
		<Value>
		(A:LIGHT LOGO,bool)
		if{
			(A:LIGHT NAV,bool) !
			if{ (&gt;K:TOGGLE_NAV_LIGHTS) }
		}
		els{
			(A:LIGHT NAV,bool)
			if{ (&gt;K:TOGGLE_NAV_LIGHTS) }
		}
		</Value>
	</Select>
</Element>

</Gauge>

1. Copy this code into a file called "LogoAndNav.xml"
2. In the 737's panel directory, create a cub-directory called "Lights"
3. Put the LogoAndNav.xml file into the "Lights" directory you just created
4. Add the following to "Panel.cfg" file in the [Vcockpit01] section:

gaugeXX=Lights!LogoAndNav, 0,0

Note that XX is the next available gauge number.

Your Nav lights should now work by using the Logo switch in the default 737 cockpit. I haven't tested this, but have written so many of these sorts of workarounds that I am sure it will solve the problem (unless I made a typographic error). Let me know how it goes.

Peter

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