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Apr 3rd, 2010 at 11:21pm

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is it a rule or personal preference?
new to flying [sim] and intending to take Private Pilot cert.
Notice so far that all fly on the left, even the default position in fsx is left.
Do we have to use the left hand to control the stick? so that it would be easier to use the right hand to access other controls?
What are the advantages of flying on the left side?
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 12:06am

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Almost all aircraft are setup with the main controls on the left side.  If you notice in the Cessna, almost every gauge and switch is located to be operated from the left side.  There are exceptions, especially in helicopters which are often flown from the right side, but almost all aircraft are designed to be flown from the left seat.  Its just common practice.
 
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Reply #2 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 12:15am

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so would it be better to use our left hand to control the stick, leaving the right hand to access other controls?
It would be a bit awkward vice-versa using the right hand on the stick and left hand cross-over to reach other controls?
 
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Reply #3 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 3:07am

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it does seem a bit awkward, doesn't it, I suppose it's probably just because cars are driven from the left seat (in the US).  what seems really weird to me is that almost every stick I've owned has been ergonomically designed to be operated with the right hand.  Although now that I think about it, most single/tandem-seat planes that I've seen have a center or right hand side stick and a left hand throttle, so that's not so unusual for a stick is it? Huh
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 5:08am

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I've seen various reasons suggested for this, none of which is too convincing. Most of the early aircraft had the pilot's seat in the centre so the question did not arise. Control layouts were a matter of preference by the various aircraft designers & a standard layout was not adopted for many years after the first powered flight. (Throttles on French & Polish aircraft worked in the reverse direction to aircraft from other countries well into the 1940s.) WWI was a big influence on aircraft design & this is when many practices which are now regarded as standard were adopted. Most of these developments took place in Europe & the US lagged behind until the early 1920s.

To find a satisfactory answer I think you need to go back to when side-by-side seating was first introduced. I'm not sure which was the first aircraft to use this layout but the Vickers Vimy (which just after the end of WWI would be the first aircraft to fly the Atlantic) had the pilot's controls on the right. The similar German Gotha bomber had the pilot's seat on the left. This made it inevitable that an international standard would be desirable to avoid accidents.

I'm not sure just who was responsible for international aviation law at the time but most of these international bodies were (& still are) based in France where motor vehicles are driven on the right-hand side of the road from the left-hand seat. Fédération Aéronautique Internationale

I think the most likely answer is that it was based on international maritime law: "When two power-driven vessels are meeting head-on both must alter course to starboard so that they pass on the port side of the other."
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Reply #5 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 9:37am

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d2hpeter wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 12:15am:
so would it be better to use our left hand to control the stick, leaving the right hand to access other controls?
It would be a bit awkward vice-versa using the right hand on the stick and left hand cross-over to reach other controls?


It all depends, are you talking about flying in sim, or a real aircraft.  When simming, I have a flight stick, so right hand is the natural way of using it.  However when I fly the regular Piper or Cessna, then I use the left hand on the yoke and right on the thottle.  Now there are aircraft, single or tandem seat aircraft, that will have a center stick and a left hand throttle.  In my opinion, it is pretty easy to go back and forth, so I wouldn't be too worried about which hand I'm using.
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:03am

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DaveSims wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 9:37am:
d2hpeter wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 12:15am:
so would it be better to use our left hand to control the stick, leaving the right hand to access other controls?
It would be a bit awkward vice-versa using the right hand on the stick and left hand cross-over to reach other controls?


It all depends, are you talking about flying in sim, or a real aircraft.  When simming, I have a flight stick, so right hand is the natural way of using it.  However when I fly the regular Piper or Cessna, then I use the left hand on the yoke and right on the thottle.  Now there are aircraft, single or tandem seat aircraft, that will have a center stick and a left hand throttle.  In my opinion, it is pretty easy to go back and forth, so I wouldn't be too worried about which hand I'm using.


I am flying sim [fsx] now using right hand cyclic with a xbox controller. I was thinking...if most aircrafts are designed to be operated on the left side, would be good if i could train my left hand now on the sim. Contrary to what you said, it would not be easy to go back and forth from right to left and vice versa. I tried switching to left hand cyclic just now on the sim and it took me about 3 hours to get familiarized.

I fly RC planes and heli with a right hand cyclic on the transmitter. But i guess i will train my left hand for piloting planes. Smiley
 
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Reply #7 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:04am

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Maybe there's some of that right handed - left handed thing involved.  The majority are right-handed and, when given a choice prefer things going left and even in a tandem aircraft, with the centered stick and left hand throttle left turns always 'felt' smoother than right.
 

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Reply #8 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:53am

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olderndirt wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:04am:
Maybe there's some of that right handed - left handed thing involved.  The majority are right-handed and, when given a choice prefer things going left and even in a tandem aircraft, with the centered stick and left hand throttle left turns always 'felt' smoother than right.


I think that's the answer. For a right handed pilot, and bearing in mind in the original side by side aeroplanes you'd have both hands on the yoke/wheel (before powered controls became the norm), a left turn is more natural (as it also is for a right handed pilot with a stick), leading to left hand circuits being the norm, and hence why sitting of the left side of the aircraft being better for the captain/first pilot. Smiley
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:53am

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olderndirt wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:04am:
Maybe there's some of that right handed - left handed thing involved.  The majority are right-handed and, when given a choice prefer things going left and even in a tandem aircraft, with the centered stick and left hand throttle left turns always 'felt' smoother than right.

I worked for a flying club for two years at the start of my career & have been interested in training ever since. The aircraft we used were Tiger Moths, the aircraft that many thousands of RAF pilots trained on during WWII. Like most trainers of the period the Tiger Moth has tandem cockpits with conventional stick & rudder & throttle on the left. It was part of my job to show new pupils the cockpit & explain the basic controls & instruments. It never occurred to me to ask them if they were left or right-handed. They don't make right & left handed aircraft. If they wanted to learn to fly they had to learn to fly the aircraft as it was manufactured.

While I was at the club we got a brand-new Beagle-Auster Terrier with side-by-side seating & dual control. This was also fitted with conventional stick & rudder but the throttle quadrant was in the centre. Pupils learning on the Terrier would sit in the left seat & fly with their left hand on the stick, just like the popular Cessna & Piper trainers in use today. If you think about it this set-up should suit left-handers more than the tandem seat trainers.

d2hpeter wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 11:03am:
DaveSims wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 9:37am:
d2hpeter wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 12:15am:
so would it be better to use our left hand to control the stick, leaving the right hand to access other controls?
It would be a bit awkward vice-versa using the right hand on the stick and left hand cross-over to reach other controls?


It all depends, are you talking about flying in sim, or a real aircraft.  When simming, I have a flight stick, so right hand is the natural way of using it.  However when I fly the regular Piper or Cessna, then I use the left hand on the yoke and right on the thottle.  Now there are aircraft, single or tandem seat aircraft, that will have a center stick and a left hand throttle.  In my opinion, it is pretty easy to go back and forth, so I wouldn't be too worried about which hand I'm using.


I am flying sim [fsx] now using right hand cyclic with a xbox controller. I was thinking...if most aircrafts are designed to be operated on the left side, would be good if i could train my left hand now on the sim. Contrary to what you said, it would not be easy to go back and forth from right to left and vice versa. I tried switching to left hand cyclic just now on the sim and it took me about 3 hours to get familiarized.

I fly RC planes and heli with a right hand cyclic on the transmitter. But i guess i will train my left hand for piloting planes. Smiley

I don't think most pilots would give it a second thought. On aircraft like the Spitfire they had to change hands just after take-off in order to retract the undercarriage. The standard RAF joystick was designed for use with either hand, just like the yoke on more modern trainers. I believe it's possible to get left-handed gaming joysticks if you want to try one. Some Saitek joysticks can be set up for use with either hand. http://www.darkplanets.co.uk/product_info.asp?pid=1056&ref=frg&utm_source=Froogl...
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Reply #10 - Apr 5th, 2010 at 1:54am

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thank you Sir.

btw, I am right-handed but i actually switched to my left hand on the mouse of a computer with right hand on the keyboard. It is quite fun actually, to be able to use both hands to do things. Just need some time to re-wire the brain. Wink






 
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Reply #11 - Apr 5th, 2010 at 10:27pm

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As you add to your real world flight experience, you will end up flying from the left seat, from the right seat, in aircraft with yokes, and in aircraft with sticks. What you will quickly find is that you easily learn to fly ambidextrously, to the point where you don't even notice it.

The only clear benefit I can see to flying with the left hand is that, if you are right handed, you can write without taking your hand off the yoke.
 
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