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Mar 19^th, 2010 at 7:16am

gypsymoth Offline
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1 = Does it matter how high or low an addon is in the list?

2 = What do these 11 entries mean/stand for?
[TERRAIN]
TERRAIN_ERROR_FACTOR=96.000000
TERRAIN_MIN_DEM_AREA=10.000000
TERRAIN_MAX_DEM_AREA=100.000000
TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=20
TERRAIN_TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8
TERRAIN_AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5
TERRAIN_USE_GRADIENT_MAP=1
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_TEXTURES=1
TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=0.000000
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=0.000000
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=1

I was wondering if changing any might solve my disappearing objects problem.... Huh

Huh

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Reply #1 - Mar 19^th, 2010 at 9:50am

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1. The lower numbers (most recent additions) are loaded last; so tha default stuff is superseded by the more recent addons.

2. This is my TERRAIN section, with no disappearing objects:
[TERRAIN]
TERRAIN_ERROR_FACTOR=100.000000
TERRAIN_MIN_DEM_AREA=10.000000
TERRAIN_MAX_DEM_AREA=100.000000
TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=21
TERRAIN_TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8
TERRAIN_AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5
TERRAIN_USE_GRADIENT_MAP=1
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_TEXTURES=1
TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=10
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=10
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=1

Maybe yout default and extended radii are too low at zero? Also, you might have overlapping sceneries that may be conflicting.

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Reply #2 - Mar 19^th, 2010 at 12:27pm

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Thanks for that - I'll give your numbers a whirl.

Interesting about the priority. Does changing it mean that complex sceneries need to be lower down ?

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Reply #3 - Mar 19^th, 2010 at 6:40pm

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Note that the layer numbers (etc.) in the scenery.cfg file are often inverted from the listing order in that file.

The layers in the Scenery Library listed at the top have the highest priority and are drawn last (i.e. over the top of everything else).

Hope this helps,

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Reply #4 - Mar 19^th, 2010 at 6:47pm

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1 is better than 150 is what I understand so far but does it matter?

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Reply #5 - Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 2:09pm

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It matters a lot if you have more than one scenery for a given area or airport. You use the scenery layers to control which one has priority.

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Reply #6 - Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 3:50pm

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OK. I have, say, 50 individual add-on airports. The 50th is loaded before the last installed at No. 1. Do they all appear with the same clarity, or definition, eg. ?

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Reply #7 - Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 4:02pm

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....I always get confused by this "Priority" malarkey.... Cry

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Each scenery add-on I install gets stuck at the top of the list automatically, with everything else getting pushed slowly towards the bottom of the list....including all the Default "stuff"....

Is it OK to leave it like this....or should it be re-arranged in a different order?
...or doesn't it really matter?

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Reply #8 - Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 4:08pm

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Yes - that's what I mean........! Roll Eyes

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Reply #9 - Mar 22^nd, 2010 at 4:32pm

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It depends on the type of scenery. It used to be easy enough to figure out but there's so many different types these days. Generally speaking I would put mesh & similar "global" or "regional" scenery below the individual airports (local scenery) on the Scenery Library list.

I recall some scenery by a certain prolific author had all the textures in one "master area". This would need to be arranged below the others in the series for it to display properly.

Please note that I'm referring to the Scenery Library listing - Not Scenery.cfg. This can be confusing unless it's pointed out.

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Reply #10 - Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 9:48am

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Adding more water to the soup - default ends up on the bottom ( highest number), then comes Mesh, usually tied into your default world scenery. Terrain is next with any separate landclass files below (higher number) than the terrain part. Above that Texture then Photoreal. Finally, on top of the pile (lowest numbers), addon sceneries - airports, cities etc. If you have different versions of any item, be sure the preferred version - the one you want to see - is on top (lower number) of the other.

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Reply #11 - Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 11:44am

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olderndirt wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 9:48am:

Adding more water to the soup - default ends up on the bottom ( highest number), then comes Mesh, usually tied into your default world scenery. Terrain is next with any separate landclass files below (higher number) than the terrain part. Above that Texture then Photoreal. Finally, on top of the pile (lowest numbers), addon sceneries - airports, cities etc. If you have different versions of any item, be sure the preferred version - the one you want to see - is on top (lower number) of the other.

So....

....to turn it on its head, as we would see it, from top to bottom of the Library list...

Priority 1....

Add-on scenery.

Photo real.
Terrain.
Land Class.
Mesh.

Default.

Priority 9999.

At the moment mine is dotted around, all over the place, as it is installed over a period of time....
...and a tasteless, watery, Soup?... Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 1:58pm

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When you say Landclass, when I installed Don Grovestine's wonderful CYYJ (2009), it came with a Landclass folder which is at a higher number (1 in fact) than CYYJ airport, as per instructions. Should it go to a higher number between Terrain & Mesh in Paul's list? As is it it appears to display alright so............ Huh

Huh

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Reply #13 - Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 2:10pm

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gypsymoth wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 1:58pm:

When you say Lansclass, when I installed Don Grovestine's wonderful CYYJ (2009), it came with a Landclass folder which is at a higher number (1 in fact) than CYYJ airport. Should it go to a higher number between Terrain & Mesh in Paul's list? As is it it appears to display alright so............ Huh

Huh

I often wonder whether it matters a hoot, where in the Library list the various Files go, and if it makes any difference once we are buzzing around, up in the clear Blue?... Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 6:56pm

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gypsymoth wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2010 at 1:58pm:

When you say Landclass, when I installed Don Grovestine's wonderful CYYJ (2009), it came with a Landclass folder which is at a higher number (1 in fact) than CYYJ airport, as per instructions. Should it go to a higher number between Terrain & Mesh in Paul's list? As is it it appears to display alright so............ Huh

Huh

I'm pretty sure with that with the Vic plus scenery there is a landscape and a landclass folder and you need be sure they are in the correct priority.......if you had them wrong you would know it Shocked

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