Simviation Forum - Replacing grass texture.

Reply #15 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 8:50pm

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Tom is on the money.
I've had a little play...here are the correlations:

Name / Displays As / Filename
CONCRETE CONCRETE taxi_concrete.bmp
GRASS GRASS taxi_grass_su.bmp
WATER WATER ?
UNKNOWN GRASS taxi_grass_su.bmp
ASPHALT ASPHALT taxi_asphalt.bmp
GRASS2 GRASS taxi_grass_su.bmp
GRASS3 GRASS taxi_grass_su.bmp
CLAY GRASS taxi_grass_su.bmp
SNOW SNOW taxi_ice.bmp
ICE SNOW taxi_ice.bmp
UNKNOWN2 CONCRETE taxi_concrete.bmp
UNKNOWN3 GRASS taxi_grass_su.bmp
DIRT DIRT taxi_dirt.bmp
CORAL CORAL taxi_coral.bmp
GRAVEL GRAVEL taxi_gravel.bmp
OIL TREATED OIL TREATED taxi_shale.bmp
STEEL MATS STEEL MATS taxi_steel.bmp
BITUMINOUS BITUMINOUS taxi_bitu.bmp
BRICK BRICK taxi_brick.bmp
MACADAM MACADAM taxi_macadam.bmp
PLANKS PLANKS taxi_planks.bmp
SAND SAND taxi_sand.bmp
SHALE SHALE taxi_shale.bmp
TARMAC TARMAC taxi_tarmac.bmp
UNKNOWNX CONCRETE taxi_concrete.bmp

Sorry my table won't format here.
What I noticed is that some of the texture names, although mapping to the same file, appear to have their own BMP's but don't use them! So there are 25 texture names, but only 17 BMP's used for them.
Examples are Grass, Grass2 and Grass3.
So even if you alter taxi_grass_sp.bmp it has no effect in the sim.

I haven't been able to identify which file maps to "Water"

GM:
be interesting to create a small library of grass with those less-used names.

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Reply #16 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 8:54pm

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Here's my scrap pad which helped me sort out what's what.
It sort of makes sense if read with the above post.

EDIT: Seems there's an issue with the picture upload...

« Last Edit: Mar 16^th, 2010 at 11:32pm by WingZ »

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Reply #17 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 10:46pm

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WingZ wrote on Mar 16^th, 2010 at 8:50pm:

So even if you alter taxi_grass_sp.bmp it has no effect in the sim.

The grass textures are seasonal.

So taxi_grass_sp.bmp displays in the spring, taxi_grass_su.bmp in the summer etc.

Hope this helps.

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Reply #18 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 11:29pm

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Yes! Makes sense.
Spring and summer seem to produce the same result.
And those BMP's share mapping to various AFCAD texture names, including "Unknown"3.
Let me try and upload that picture again...

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Reply #19 - Mar 18^th, 2010 at 5:46pm

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Nice one WingZ....much clearer.
I hope you got the grass textures alright?

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Reply #20 - Mar 18^th, 2010 at 6:39pm

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Yes thank you - I'll have a play...

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Reply #21 - Mar 20^th, 2010 at 4:08pm

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Just to bring the discussion back to where it started, it seems most of the issues have been identified,
http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=279498&st=0&gopid=1737781&#entry173...

I'll play some more with textures that suit a modern sim install. and release them at some point.
Obviously, this is not meant to replace properly designed scenery, but affords a better texture set to a a casual AFCAD doodler like myself.

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Reply #22 - Mar 20^th, 2010 at 4:21pm

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WingZ wrote on Mar 20^th, 2010 at 4:08pm:

Just to bring the discussion back to where it started, it seems most of the issues have been identified,
http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=279498&st=0&gopid=1737781&#entry173...

I'll play some more with textures that suit a modern sim install. and release them at some point.
Obviously, this is not meant to replace properly designed scenery, but affords a better texture set to a a casual AFCAD doodler like myself.

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Looks like we have created a "monster" .........lol.

Nice work. I am sure there are many of us "doodlers" who can makes use of your efforts.

David "Opa" Marshall

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Reply #23 - Mar 20^th, 2010 at 7:56pm

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Opa wrote on Mar 20^th, 2010 at 4:21pm:

Looks like we have created a "monster" .........lol.

Nice work. I am sure there are many of us "doodlers" who can makes use of your efforts.

What's this "we"stuff David, gotta mouse in yer pocket.hehehehe

Just kiddin'

Kudos to WingZ, I know you have spent a lot of time on this.

Thanks for the effort.

cheers,
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Reply #24 - Mar 20^th, 2010 at 10:02pm

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Certainly "we" ! Wink

David started the thought - well actually, gypsymoth asked the question...
The power of the forums, eh?

I'll see if I can make some sense of it in the next week or so.

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Reply #25 - Mar 27^th, 2010 at 1:20pm

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I've got 2 files to use that I'm playing with - taxi_planks & taxi_shale. I can swap them around as the scenery dictates.
HOWEVER - I'll be interested to see what you come up with WingZ. Although I'm editing & testing them in an irregular fashion, I still can't get the exact green I want.... Huh

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Reply #26 - Mar 27^th, 2010 at 9:07pm

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Because "Oil-treated" and "Shale" map to the same file, I decided to leave them be, being the only really dark textures available.
My present nominees for messing with are:
Steel Mats
Bituminous
Brick
Macadam and
Planks

- none of which I've ever encountered in any AFCAD scenery I've seen.
One problem is that the grass should be seasonal, so maybe one should look at replacing the 5 grass textures, and use the "spare" textures for other stuff?

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