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Jan 13^th, 2010 at 4:32pm

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Will only be exterior at first, but it's nice to see how it's getting along. http://www.captainsim.com/products/b520/

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Reply #1 - Jan 13^th, 2010 at 10:09pm

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Having seen one many times at IAG I need to say that the nose looks a little misshaped . Undecided

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Reply #2 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 2:21am

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Looks fine to me, Jordan. I think what you are seeing is the effect that their wide-angle shots have on the nose in some instances. I can definitely see a few shots where it looks misshapen because of that.

One thing that does stand out to me though is the weird livery coloration. I haven't seen a -52 painted that lightly before.

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Reply #3 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 9:22am

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The nose does look a little funky...

...but even a perfect exterior model isn't much.

...and that thing ain't worth a quarter unless it can do this.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/p373.jpg

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Reply #4 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 1:45am

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Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 14^th, 2010 at 9:22am:

...and that thing ain't worth a quarter unless it can do this.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/p373.jpg

Taxi to the runway?

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Reply #5 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 8:49am

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You'll probably need this too:

http://www.esscoaircraft.com/Boeing_B_52G_1975_Flight_Manual_p/16218.htm

Lots of eye candy. I wonder if it flies.

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Reply #6 - Jan 15^th, 2010 at 4:52pm

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Quote:

Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 14^th, 2010 at 9:22am:

...and that thing ain't worth a quarter unless it can do this.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/p373.jpg

Taxi to the runway?

Crosswind landing, notice all the wheels.

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Reply #7 - Jan 16^th, 2010 at 8:47pm

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Rich H wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

Will only be exterior at first....

And I thought AlphaSim were the only ones lame enough to do that. I really hope this isn't a new trend for payware.

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Reply #8 - Jan 16^th, 2010 at 9:13pm

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Reply #9 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 12:59pm

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snippyfsxer wrote on Jan 16^th, 2010 at 9:13pm:

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."
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Fool me once, shame on you.
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Reply #10 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 7:22am

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For this price (eur 9,99) this is a bargain, even taking into account it is exterior only. Amazingly beautiful! Made my first shot http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1263903697/0

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Reply #11 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 11:04am

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And if they never "get around" to releasing a VC for it or a 2D panel, then what will you have?

I'm still just in shock that a company like CaptainSim with products like theirs, would pull something like this.

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Reply #12 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 3:54pm

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MIKE JG wrote on Jan 19^th, 2010 at 11:04am:

And if they never "get around" to releasing a VC for it or a 2D panel, then what will you have?

I'm still just in shock that a company like CaptainSim with products like theirs, would pull something like this.

Makes a bit of money between gaps in full product releases really.

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Reply #13 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 4:13pm

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...and upholds the ever increasing trend of the lowering standards of business ethics.

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Reply #14 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 6:21pm

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Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 14^th, 2010 at 9:22am:

...and that thing ain't worth a quarter unless it can do this.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/p373.jpg

Taxi to the runway?

I think he means set the crab on the main gear.

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Reply #15 - Jan 21^st, 2010 at 10:10am

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Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 19^th, 2010 at 4:13pm:

...and upholds the ever increasing trend of the lowering standards of business ethics.

Not sure how it is connected with ethics or standards, really. They released EXTERIOR model only, without any promises etc. Those who need and like exterior - will buy. Those who don't - will not. They do not charge full price, but charge for exterior model only. And please remember their complex aircraft like Herk, 767, 757. So it is not about low standards here.

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Reply #16 - Jan 21^st, 2010 at 3:10pm

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JeeS wrote on Jan 21^st, 2010 at 10:10am:

Not sure how it is connected with ethics or standards, really. They released EXTERIOR model only, without any promises etc. Those who need and like exterior - will buy. Those who don't - will not. They do not charge full price, but charge for exterior model only. And please remember their complex aircraft like Herk, 767, 757. So it is not about low standards here.

Imagine Gibson selling half a guitar for half price. "Oh, we'll get you the rest when we make it, but no promises."

...and the Herc is NOT complex. The 757/767 maybe complex, they're disgracefully inaccurate.

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Reply #17 - Jan 22^nd, 2010 at 7:46pm

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It's just a disturbing trend that seems to be developing, that's all.

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Reply #18 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 4:37am

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Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2010 at 3:10pm:

Imagine Gibson selling half a guitar for half price. "Oh, we'll get you the rest when we make it, but no promises."

Guess you don't get the point here. Nobody promises anything! You get perfect exterior only. If you are not interested - just do not buy. You are complaining because they released something different from your expectations. But these are your expectations, why to blame devs for them??

Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2010 at 3:10pm:

...and the Herc is NOT complex. The 757/767 maybe complex, they're .

Oh yeah, Herk is not complex... Really? Do you think it is easy to develop everything which does not have FMS? I do not think so. The Herky IS complex, and very realistic. Have you ever heard of ANY MSFS aircraft nominated for BAFTA Award? And the Herk WAS in 2006.

... And I do not know if the 757/767 are soo 'disgracefully inaccurate'. Obviously they are not. Guess here we see expectations again. This is not a real world simulator for millions. I am perfectly satisfied 757/767 user. At least CS keep improving their products (not like LDS with their outdated not perfect product)

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Reply #19 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 5:30pm

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JeeS wrote on Jan 28^th, 2010 at 4:37am:

Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2010 at 3:10pm:

Imagine Gibson selling half a guitar for half price. "Oh, we'll get you the rest when we make it, but no promises."

Guess you don't get the point here. Nobody promises anything! You get perfect exterior only. If you are not interested - just do not buy. You are complaining because they released something different from your expectations. But these are your expectations, why to blame devs for them??

Jeff.Guo wrote on Jan 21^st, 2010 at 3:10pm:

...and the Herc is NOT complex. The 757/767 maybe complex, they're .

Oh yeah, Herk is not complex... Really? Do you think it is easy to develop everything which does not have FMS? I do not think so. The Herky IS complex, and very realistic. Have you ever heard of ANY MSFS aircraft nominated for BAFTA Award? And the Herk WAS in 2006.

... And I do not know if the 757/767 are soo 'disgracefully inaccurate'. Obviously they are not. Guess here we see expectations again. This is not a real world simulator for millions. I am perfectly satisfied 757/767 user. At least CS keep improving their products (not like LDS with their outdated not perfect product)

First off, you CANNOT operate an aircraft realistically without a FMS. You can spend however long you want developing a piece of crap, its still a piece of crap.

And FYI, LDS 767 is MUCH, MUCH more comprehensive and realistic than Captain Sim's, and the LDS's AP logic is still YEARS better than anything Captain Sim has came up with. Ever wonder why their "Our Aircraft is the most realistic simulation for flight simulator" sticky topic is curiously missing from the 767 forum?

I'll give you that Captain Sim makes excellent visual models, but not much more than that. The fact that they even attempted to market as anything more is unethical and disgraceful.

Don't get me wrong, I have just about all their shit (pun intended), but haven't payed a dime more than 15 bucks each.

Without that winter sale, they price their products similar to PMDG (with the exception of the PMDG MD-11), and now you tell me which plane is more worth that price tag?

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Reply #20 - Jan 29^th, 2010 at 6:27am

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"First off, you CANNOT operate an aircraft realistically without a FMS."

Says who?

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Reply #21 - Jan 29^th, 2010 at 8:15am

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My bad, let me rephrase...

..."You cannot operate a FMS equipped aircraft realistically with out a FMS."

All better...? Grin

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Reply #22 - Feb 1^st, 2010 at 8:57am

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Captain Sim has a terrible attitude to their customers. They won't any more money from me... since they don't care about good business I think that won't bother them much.

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