Simviation Forum - ATI 5850 for FSX or not

Reply #75 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 12:36pm

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@Brett_Henderson

That might be true, but it's a statement that excludes a great portion of simmers all around the world because they don't have the money to buy these expensive Intel products!

Why can't people understand, that here amongst the obvious rich and loaded FSX enthusiasts, who do not mind to dig deep and pay for a couple of extra frames, there are guys like Speedoflight (- and me, and hopefully others) who don't want to go "bah-bah" like sheep as so many certainly do!

I'm OK with my AMD, the DDR2 4-4-4-12 timings etc., so is Speedoflight, and it's cheap, way cheaper than i7 - which actually in many cases have problems with microstutters etc.

Look at this unlucky guy:

http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=271495

It boggles the mind it sure does...
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Reply #76 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 12:37pm

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Brett, I believe NNNG just wanted to show him which was better because it isn't a good idea to give false information that would lead to someone not getting what they wanted.

Yup

And your pricing makes my point. That extra $88, will be the best $88 spent on a new computer.. especially considering the price of the overall build, and the years you'll use it.

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Reply #77 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 12:40pm

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That might be true, but it's a statement that excludes a great portion of simmers all around the world because they don't have the money to buy these expensive Intel products!

Stating that the better hardware is more expensive, excludes nobody.. it's just reality.

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Reply #78 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 1:05pm

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Brett_Henderson wrote on Jan 14^th, 2010 at 12:40pm:

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That might be true, but it's a statement that excludes a great portion of simmers all around the world because they don't have the money to buy these expensive Intel products!

Stating that the better hardware is more expensive, excludes nobody.. it's just reality.

Every time someone comes out with the next "best thing", it is always ridiculously overpriced. For example, ATi's 5970 (the x2 of today) +-$649. Damn! But for this week, it's the best. The super-mega zip-chip of 3:00 is obsolete before you even stick it in your case, it seems. Moore's law.
As far as FALSE information goes, I don't get your ignorance. There is NO FALSIFICATION of OPINION. I think MY machine is FASTER than A LOT of them, and I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. Your opinion is just as succeptable to scrutiny as is mine. I just happen to use my head, and not just accept anything someone else tells me is "true". No way around, not possible, can't be done, all blanket statements made by people who can accept things the way there are as "just the way it is" or something. All statements made about going faster than light, which were all the same arguements made to Chuck Yeager during his "faster than sound" tests at Edwards in the 40's, all sound the same to me. Physics prevents it, and that's just the way it is. Hmmm... It's a good thing they kept trying.
So, I'm gonna get into this, and find a way to CRUSH an Intel with this inferior AM3 running on a somewhat compatible AM2+ MoBo, and I'm gonna do it with my 8 GB DDR2 1066 MHz, ATi 4870 li'l 512 MB VC, and have y'all saying, "Well, It is possible, I guess." Wish me luck... Wink

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Reply #79 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 1:29pm

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Oh Speedoflight, forgive them, because they are sheep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaSBsJyOoM
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Reply #80 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 1:34pm

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I don't get your ignorance

I've posted two, small statements, here.. from where do you infer ignorance ?

And to both of you (Thai09).. that's not the tone we use here.. keep it polite, please..

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Reply #81 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 2:04pm

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Every time someone comes out with the next "best thing", it is always ridiculously overpriced. For example, ATi's 5970 (the x2 of today) +-$649. Damn! But for this week, it's the best. The super-mega zip-chip of 3:00 is obsolete before you even stick it in your case, it seems. Moore's law.

Who cares if the newest latest and greatest thing is very expensive, there is a market called the ENTHUSIAST MARKET, it is for the people that upgrade their computers and benchmark for a hobby and they spend their money on buying the best, just like someone would do when buying a boat or a car. It's not up to you how other people spend their money, if they want the best, they will buy it, despite what you say.

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As far as FALSE information goes, I don't get your ignorance. There is NO FALSIFICATION of OPINION. I think MY machine is FASTER than A LOT of them, and I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. Your opinion is just as succeptable to scrutiny as is mine. I just happen to use my head, and not just accept anything someone else tells me is "true". No way around, not possible, can't be done, all blanket statements made by people who can accept things the way there are as "just the way it is" or something.

This has absolutely nothing to do with opinion because when something can be tested and proven to be a better chip than another opinion doesn't come into it, there is just fact and fiction. Although you aren't able to comprehend that and are acting under the assumption that you're opinion is correct no matter what proof is shown to you.

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All statements made about going faster than light, which were all the same arguements made to Chuck Yeager during his "faster than sound" tests at Edwards in the 40's, all sound the same to me. Physics prevents it, and that's just the way it is. Hmmm... It's a good thing they kept trying.
So, I'm gonna get into this, and find a way to CRUSH an Intel with this inferior AM3 running on a somewhat compatible AM2+ MoBo, and I'm gonna do it with my 8 GB DDR2 1066 MHz, ATi 4870 li'l 512 MB VC, and have y'all saying, "Well, It is possible, I guess." Wish me luck... Wink

I know for a fact that when you try and beat an "Intel" (instead of just saying Intel you should be saying i7 because we have already established that the phenom II is faster than a lot of other intel chips) It won't be under controlled conditions and you will try and manipulate the programs to try and prove your point. Just like when NNNG showed you his screenshot with 1200+ FPS. It was a rediculous way of measuring performance but he only did it to make you see that yours isn't the fastest chip around (even if the methodology you set for him was incredibly flawed).

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Reply #82 - Jan 14^th, 2010 at 2:07pm

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T1MT1M, Speed of Flight & Thai 09...
we have all been watching this thread and all it's posts about who's bigger, badder, faster, ect... and to be honest, it is really going down hill.

We try to promote a friendly and helpful forum here at SimV and what we are reading really does not do anything constructive for anybody here. We see that a few of the people in question, seem to be somewhat new here and just wanted to remind you that this forum is an international forum, with different beliefs, opinions and ages.

This is your 1st "reminder' that if it continues the way it is going, we will simply lock it.

If it starts up again in another thread, we will lock it.

And if by then you do not get the point that this web site is here to help, promote and talk about the hobby we all like then you will be asked to leave.

Thank you for your understanding and if anybody feels they need to say anything, you can PM a mod.

Now have a nice day

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