Thank You, thank You so much, I bow down, I'M CONVINCED!

Save some dough and go AMD/ATI.

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Hf6d404QY

7Gz+ on a Phenom!

Speed of Flight is really enthusiastic.  But if what he says is true, and who could doubt a fellow simmer, then it means that the Intel/Nvidia combination can't handle the game as well as the AMD/ATI combo.

If it is so obvious, then why are the majority of us, me included, reluctant to make the change?  We seem to have been brainwashed into a loyalty for the most expensive on the market.

Later this year I will treat this information seriously in my choice of hardware.

"An ATi graphics card will by no means perform better on an AMD processor."

Although I am very enthusiastic, yes, I must disagree with you on whether or not the AMD/ATI combo can run better vs ATI/Intel. AMD/ATI's merger a few years ago DEFINITELY gave them the advantage over intel.
Evidence? Sure:
ATI has been using GDDR5 for 2 years now.
AMD has been making their own chipsets to put on motherboards.
AMD/ATI is the faster, better thought-out, co-ownership of overclockers fantasies: A "team" if you will, that of which was destined to dominate. They have done it.
Granted, an Intel processor can overclock on air to higher levels than an AMD (most of the time). However, AMD's architecture puts the RAM controller ON THE PROCESSOR. It doesn't have to scource the socket on the MB. Each has their advantages and disadvantages.

I didn't have as good an arguement as I'd thought, but I didn't really think I needed to. I've got proof!
ALL SHOULD REMEMBER!!!! This is just a friendly and respectful rivalry. If any INTEL guys can run this game faster, with the tweaks I've been using, I will gladly resign as the self-appointed FSX FPS champ (not as I deserve it, I just took it )

I'm excited that the hardware has finally caught up with the crunch of FSX. I'm very happy with the purchases I'd made, and learned how to get as much as I can out of it. If anybody has a comparable rig, maybe we can tell others how to get the best of theirs on FSX. This is still a very heavy sim: people still trying to just run it, some of them.

Keeping with the friendly competition part, anybody else got almost 300 FPS with everything maxxed? HA! I dare you! Post pics!

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That bugs me a little. How do you know, mister? Have you tried EVERY piece of hardware out there? That's a blanket statement made by someone who obviously doesn't know. That's rude, even. What do you run? You get 300 FPS? I bet not. Don't tell me that it isn't working, or that it doesn't, when it does, obviously.

Where's your proof? Do you listen to the benchmark folks? Or do you actually buy ALL the hardware there is to get, and try it? How can you say that when it's actually true? Don't just try and argue with no basis. You haven't a clue, my friend. It works for me. I posted pics just to prove it.
You're a nay-sayer. I did it with Windows 7 64 bit, too. It's what I run. If you can prove that there's no corelation, do it. I will tell you this, though:
They are the SAME company. One would think that they work TOGETHER to make a good product for a fair price. If you stopped shooting from the hip and actually TRY before you just say, you may see your error. Don't tell me, pardner. You prove it, and I'll listen. Otherwise, be quiet. people actually want to know how to make things go faster, and you saying stuff like that is just sabotage. You don't run my rig, so you don't know what is faster. Find out for yourself, and then post pics. PROVE IT. Then talk.

Another thing: AMD Phenom 2 holds the world record for overclocking. 7 GHz (with liquid nitrogen, I think). Who's ACTUALLY faster, and then who is faster IN THEORY may be two different subjects...

Rich H wrote on Jan 11^th, 2010 at 2:36pm:


Now that's what I'm talking about! Thank you! Geeze. I apologize for bein a jerk. I hate it when somebody says something with only theory, instead of experience. Another guy gave someone a hard time over an OS upgrade issue, and he told the poor guy that he didn't know what he was talking about, or that he was wrong, or whatever. I felt like I had to help the guy out! That kind of junk has no room anywhere, and I don't like it. With some folks, you can show 'em proof, and they will still say "You're wrong", or "You don't know what you're talking about", that kind of junk, without any counter-arguement/proof. I would have hoped for an intelligent "arguement" (a point-for-point discussion) about what worked or not, and maybe even a little friendly competition, er sumthin.

Maybe we can get back to that, now...

macca22au wrote on Jan 10^th, 2010 at 8:04am:


I think, more than anything, I just stumbled upon a good combination. I'm AMD/ATi loyal as much as the Intel/Nvidia folks are, and it's understandable. For all the right reasons, Intel/Nvidia simmers should be all over me, as I don't think that I got that great a combo, but when I saw what I posted these pics about, I couldn't help but share with other simmers how I did it. I've been watching these forums for years now, and taking tips from people for how to make this FSX program ROCK with Athlons and P4's. We've all come a long way, and hope anything I say can help us all enjoy what we love a little more.

The only thing I'm enjoying more than pushing this system a little faster is flying on it. I need a bigger monitor...

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That's generally what happens when your CPU is not fast enough for your type of flying, or you have the framelock set to unlimited.........

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I could ask you the same question.

.... Because I have hundreds if not thousands of posts on overclocking forums such as OCAU, I work at a computer store, & also my sources, such as ANANDTECH for example, have tested every piece of hardware out there.

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3619&p=6

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I didn't know I had to post benchmarks only to show the blatantly obvious... this is stuff school children could understand...... but I digress.... I posted benchmarks... they all agree with me, not you.

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I run a two year old Q6600 (2.4ghz) overclocked to QX6850 spec (3.0ghz) and an overclocked 8800GT videocard. I get a constant smooth 26 fps, which allows me unlike you to have crystal clear all the way up to 600 knots.