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ATI 5850 for FSX or not (Read 660 times)
Dec 28th, 2009 at 3:18pm

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Hi,

I need to upgrade my video card, currently using a 8800GT
with 512 MB. Thinking of getting an ATI card, as they are avail. in Canada, I can't find any Geforce cards 275 or 285.

Like to know what to expect by switching to ATI, driver wise, performance, display quality, etc.

I believe my current video card my be bottle necking me.


My System: I7 920 OC 3.6, 6 gb Ram, 8800GT, 2x500 H/D
Windows 7 64Bit, Samsung 22inch monitor, etc.

Thanks

 
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Reply #1 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:13am

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Nvidea have been better for FSX, But I have been hearing that ATis 5XXX Series have been a big improvement from the 4 series in terms of FSX  Wink
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 5:59pm

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GO FOR IT!!! I've been running my ATI 4870 on FSX for a long time now, and it ROX! Trying to get ahold of the 5870 (or the 5970 x2). The Nvidia people will tell you that they think theirs runs FSX better, but go ahead and ask one of those guys if they can max out ALL of their settings yet. I have, and I even tweaked the CFG file for higher than 100% detail. I changed the LOD (level of detail) radius to 8.50000 from the default 4.50000, changed the traffic from 100% to 200% for air traffic, using Real Environment Xtreme 2.0, all the way up, photoreal Las Vegas, Reno, all kinds of stuff, and have dang near infinite FPS. Got a screen shot yesterday almost 300FPS! Ask those Nvidia guys if they ever got that! Here you go...

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Reply #3 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 7:05pm

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Thanks for the info, may try to find one if possible, they are
hard to come by.
 
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Reply #4 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 5:28am

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ATI cannot do clouds, whatabout them darn clouds?!

Show us pls. Smiley

 
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Reply #5 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 3:24pm

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And wile you are there, keep the 8800 gt close i guess you are going to need it  Wink
 
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Reply #6 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 6:51pm

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Thanks for all the info, seems to me that there is no clear reason to migrate to an ATI card due to various problems. I thought that with the newer drivers some of the problems were
fixed. I use REX and would hate to loose the effects of those
great clouds. I guess I have two options, buy a nvidia 275 or 285 card, or wait until the 300 series appear whenever.

The Nvidia cards are more expensive as well, can't win.
 
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Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 2:00pm

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Yes you can win. I certainly wish those Nvidia guys would really listen to what they say. "Can't do clouds. What about those darn clouds"? Really? Why would so many people have ATI stuff if it couldn't do the most basic of junk? If you want a demonstration, I'll send anyone who wants it, a screenshot of REX 2 running full bore, and BIG, FLUFFY, WHITE CLOUDS all over the place, at 292.7 FPS. No clouds? That's just dumb. Go with Nvidia if you must (loyalty is important) but your frame rate junk will always be a problem. It really only works if it works for you. The problem I got with selling anyone on it is that dang ol' Nvidia loyalty. If you must, get an Nvidia card. But if you want one that ROX, listen to a guy whom has tried both. Anyone know how to upload a screeny in here? *Found it, and here you go.

[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/Try this Nvidia 2!.jpg[/img]

So I think there's a link in this window, but I can't see it when I post it...
 

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Reply #8 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 2:23pm

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Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 2:32pm

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[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/Try this Nvidia 3!.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/Try this Nvidia 4!.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/Try this Nvidia5!.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/Try this Nvidia 6!.jpg[/img]

Check those out. Had to be resized from 1280x1024 for the forum rules, but there's a little proof. Have at it.
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 8:03pm

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Take the !? stuff out of the file names, and re-upload, then they will appear  Wink Also be sure to not have any spaces in the file names  Wink
 

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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 10:05pm

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GRRRRR!!!! AAARRRGHHH!!! I been werkin for a little while now to try and find out how theeeee heeell the moderators want these files to be uploaded. Maybe it's an ATI guy thing, but I shouldn't have to prove it to folks. They should just know Smiley
Tryin again...
 

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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 10:17pm

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SO I KEEP WERKIN ON IT....
HOPE THAT SELLS IT ENOUGH!!!...
 

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Reply #13 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 10:35pm

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There it is! HAH! Thanx fer helpin, and if yer usin Nvidia card, I'm almost sorry fer ya, but not quite. Nite, see y'all up there.
 

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Reply #14 - Jan 2nd, 2010 at 12:28am

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Wow. I'm impressed! Not really, cuz they're my pics: I took em. But, i got a bunch more where that came from. Wheeeee!!! Just got done flyin, and I love it! Can't imagine how much a pain THAT must be for an Nvidia guy. I obviously don't know how photoshop werks, nor would I need to. Just get yourself some *sweeeet* hardware (preferably an AMD cpu w/ AMD chipset) and your ATI card will LOVE you forever! Just take my word for it. I can tell you, after this thread, there will be a few more ATI folks. And all the better for me. Maybe they'll give me a commission!*
*I doubt it, but other than facts, numbers, and proof, I got a perty good arguement. 292.7. Got more where that came from. AND, that's with ALL settings maxxed, and LOD beyond max. All kinds of junk maxxed. FAST, even loaded down. It's like bigfoot, and a dragster.

GET ONE! Cheesy Shocked
 

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Windows 7x64
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