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Dec 4^th, 2009 at 2:30pm

Sir Puma Offline
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I wish I could bash them over the head with my L188. 5 or so hours of flying from SEA to ANC and the game forces me to abort my landing because someone can't get their tail off the runway. As I'm trying to respond to their commands for heading and altitude (I needed a say again) they wouldn't shut up giving me 3 sets of commands and someone else 2 and by the time it let me respond my answer number had changed to Cancel IFR Landing. GHAAAAAAA! It screwed up my whole landing and of course trying to reload only screwed it up even more. Man I hate them. Not to mention, even with the ATC volume turned all the way up I can barely hear them.

Sorry, just had to vent. I hate spending that much time on such a long boring flight to have it completely fragged at the last minute by ATC.

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Reply #1 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 11:07pm

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We've all been there. Cheesy

Cheesy

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Reply #2 - Dec 5^th, 2009 at 4:56am

Fozzer Offline
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The many joys of FS 2004 Air Traffic Control... Kiss

Kiss

.....!

Always brings a grin to my face with some of their (and mine) activities... Grin

Grin

...!

The one joy of the Simulator is that you can completely ignore them....and carry on in your own sweet way...(which is what I often do).... Wink

Wink

...!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004....FS Navigator...

"...what do you mean?...Airport Closed!... Shocked

Shocked

....go away!..."..... Grin

Grin

....!

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Reply #3 - Dec 5^th, 2009 at 10:10am

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"Fozzer, Your ATC services have been terminated.

... Fozzer, did you copy? Your ATC services have been terminated"

lol Smiley

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Reply #4 - Dec 5^th, 2009 at 1:27pm

Fozzer Offline
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Capt.Propwash wrote on Dec 5^th, 2009 at 10:10am:

"Fozzer, Your ATC services have been terminated.

... Fozzer, did you copy? Your ATC services have been terminated"

lol Smiley

Tee-Hee... Wink

Wink

...

...I have been known to be a bit of a Rebel when it comes to Air Traffic Control.... Wink

Wink

...

Wink

....!

I am the bane of Los Angeles International Airport!.. Smiley

...!

Paul...G-BPLF....and my Licence hanging by a thread... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

....

Wink

...

Grin

....!

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Reply #5 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 12:09pm

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"ATC... You talkin to me?"

I tend to ignore them to.

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They both will work perfectly, until you open windows.

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Reply #6 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 7:17pm

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As a former (real life) Anchorage Tower controller, I never talk to them - no delays, always number one

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Reply #7 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 7:29pm

Fozzer Offline
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I must admit, I do rather like the 2-way Air Traffic Control conversations in FS 2004...
At least they are always crystal clear, with no background "mush"...

..and the Text of the messages always appearing on the windscreen in front of me is a great way of making sure that both of us fully understood the instructions... Wink

Wink

...

Wink

...

.....(If only it was like that in real life!)..... Grin

Grin

...!

Paul...Roger Roger....Over and out... Wink

Wink

...!

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Reply #8 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 8:00pm

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Fozzer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2009 at 7:29pm:

.....(If only it was like that in real life!)..... Grin

Grin

...!

After listening to that audio of the gang at LHR re. the BA777 accident, I've got to say they're a class act - couldn't ask for better.

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Reply #9 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 8:21pm

Fozzer Offline
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olderndirt wrote on Dec 6^th, 2009 at 8:00pm:

Fozzer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2009 at 7:29pm:

.....(If only it was like that in real life!)..... Grin

Grin

...!

After listening to that audio of the gang at LHR re. the BA777 accident, I've got to say they're a class act - couldn't ask for better.

The thing I could never get used to, during my infrequent excursions aloft, is the SUDDEN burst of chatter in my David Clark headphones, followed by complete silence, without any prior warning, which always takes me by surprise to the extent that I am never quite sure what was said!.... Shocked

Shocked

...!
..."Would you please repeat the last transmission".... Embarrassed

Embarrassed

.....will be the inscription on my Grave Stone!... Grin

Grin

....!

In a normal conversation, you get to hear the intake of breath, which indicates that the person is going to speak to you...so you are ready to listen...
Up in the air, its just a sudden explosion in your Headphones... Shocked

Shocked

...!
..."What the heck was that!"... Grin

Grin

...!

Paul...Headphones also make my ears uncomfortably hot!... Embarrassed

Embarrassed

...

Grin

...

Grin

...!
...and the noise-cancelling effect makes me go deaf for a while when back on terra-firma!

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Reply #10 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 10:08pm

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I hear you mate. I try and come in as slow as I possible can if there's an aircraft on the runway so that he can get out of the way!

I'm always prepared for a go around if I have to.

If I've done a couple of go-arounds and still can't get on the ground, I cancel the IFR and then request a full-stop landing. For some reason, the tower will hold all depatures and wave off any aircraft on approach so that I get a priority landing! Cool

Cool

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Reply #11 - Dec 6^th, 2009 at 10:21pm

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Normally, as the pilot, you initiate the conversation i.e "I'd like some of your hot-cross buns"- better yet "Anchorage Tower Cessna Golf Bravo November (can't see the rest) five southeast, inbound with 'Whiskey' request full stop. They come back at you with "Cessna .....runway 24 right, report over ..... for a base entry. From then on it's your responsibility to listen for your number and respond and it helps to figure out where other inbounds might be, in case you're sequenced. Sometimes they're so busy they don't have time to tell you twice so it behooves you to listen up. "If you want to swim with the sharks, be one"

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« Last Edit: Dec 7^th, 2009 at 10:17am by olderndirt »

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Reply #12 - Dec 7^th, 2009 at 12:54pm

SeanTK Ex Member

I've definitely noticed some approaches are worse than others with ATC in 2004.

Of course recently I've been flying helicopters, so I'll just monitor the tower freq without talking and fly straight into the parking/ramp area! Cheesy

Cheesy

I'll still use flight following when enroute VFR, and will fly down the runway approach path when IFR, but from there it stops.

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Reply #13 - Dec 8^th, 2009 at 8:11am

HoratioWondersocks Offline
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Hello
I don't know if you have Editvoicepak or not,but you can use Evp to accelerate the very slow delivery of default ATC at least then it gets through all those conversations quicker thus avoiding the the IFR flight plan canceled message.
By the way you do know that even if you do get your IFR plan canceled you can reopen it straight away whilst still airborne.Just make sure when the option to move the aircraft to the airport comes up say no! otherwise the the flt will restart from the beginning. When you next open the ATC window you should see an option to request ifr clearance from the controller and you should be able to proceed as before.
Hope that makes some sense.If you know all this stuff anyway then ignore.
cheers Andy

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Reply #14 - Dec 8^th, 2009 at 9:45am

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HoratioWondersocks wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 8:11am:

if you do get your IFR plan canceled:)

Only the pilot can cancel IFR - ATC is not allowed. Many's the time I wished

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Reply #15 - Dec 8^th, 2009 at 12:41pm

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olderndirt wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 9:45am:

HoratioWondersocks wrote on Dec 8^th, 2009 at 8:11am:

if you do get your IFR plan canceled:)

Only the pilot can cancel IFR - ATC is not allowed. Many's the time I wished

.

Hello
I am of course talking FS9.
Andy

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