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Nov 13^th, 2009 at 11:14pm

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I am looking to start repainting and I have the DXTBmp and Paint Pro. I keep see that Photo is used. Ummm, can Paint Pro be used also?

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Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 6:48am

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Yup, you can even use Paint if you're that way inclinded..... or a masochist Grin

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Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 8:20am

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Madcat wrote on Nov 13^th, 2009 at 11:14pm:

I am looking to start repainting and I have the DXTBmp and Paint Pro. I keep see that Photo is used. Ummm, can Paint Pro be used also?

thx

I've used nothing but Paint Shop Pro 9 for repaints & edits. I can't seem to wrap my mind around Photoshop. Embarrassed

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Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 11:44am

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I started out with Paint Shop Pro, way back in the days of the 737 Experience... It IS easier to relate to if you're coming from MS Paint or something... but it's far more limited.

Photoshop is the image editor of choice for 99% of people who work with images, and it can do just about anything... once you learn how to use it that is... It's farther removed from the MS Paint workflow, but I think many would argue that this is a good thing Wink

I had the boon of learning Photoshop in college, so I kinda got on a fast track to learning it, even so I still find new things every now and then that make all the difference... Photoshop has some obscure methods and shortcuts, but that's just Adobe's way I think Roll Eyes

IMO, It's worth the hassle of learning... plus it's widely used so there is a limitless amount of help online

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Reply #4 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 11:52am

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It's all very well recommending Photoshop. I'm sure it's an excellent graphics editor but can someone please explain to me how the average member of this forum can afford to purchase it. http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65015634-Photoshop-CS4/dp/B001EUBSL0

Hardly seems worth it for a few FS repaints. Perhaps I'm missing something. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 12:22pm

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Yeah... there's that...

Well, you don't need to get the CS4 Extended version... the older versions must be quite cheaper... But you're right... It might be overkill for just FS repaints...

Other than that, there's always GIMP or Paint.net Wink

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Reply #6 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 12:35pm

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Paint Shop Pro 9 is now available for free on the net, totally legit Cool

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Reply #7 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 12:40pm

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ozzy72 wrote on Nov 14^th, 2009 at 12:35pm:

Paint Shop Pro 9 is now available for free on the net, totally legit Cool

Oh yes? Then how do you explain this?

Pull the other one Mark. Tongue

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Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 1:04pm

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Uninstall, wipe the registry, and reinstall. Pain in the butt, but it works.

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Reply #9 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 1:25pm

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Uninstall, wipe the registry, and reinstall.

I'm sure that isn't strictly legit. To be honest I can't be bothered.

I'm still wondering how so many members here appear to use the latest version of Photoshop for repaints & screenshots. I don't believe that's legit either. Tongue

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Reply #10 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 2:10pm

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It sucked enough that I just gave up and bought it. Once I discovered plug ins, it was entirely too much of a hassle to reinstall them all each time. Embarrassed

I believe some of the much earlier versions are free now, but from what I've heard, you're much better off with Gimp or Paint.net at that point.

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Reply #11 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 2:17pm

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Hagar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2009 at 11:52am:

It's all very well recommending Photoshop. I'm sure it's an excellent graphics editor but can someone please explain to me how the average member of this forum can afford to purchase it. http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65015634-Photoshop-CS4/dp/B001EUBSL0

By taking advantage of heavily subsidised student versions Cheesy

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Reply #12 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 5:53pm

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This is all you need

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65045174-Photoshop-Elements-8/dp/B002ID8R3Y/ref=sr_1...

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Reply #13 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 9:34pm

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I should start getting into this. I have the DXTBmp and Photoshop CS3. It would be neat.

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Reply #14 - Nov 15^th, 2009 at 4:05am

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Most of the replies in this topic give the impression that you need Photoshop or other expensive professional quality software to repaint FS textures. I still say that's a load of nonsense & I'm sure that this rather snobbish attitude puts a lot of people off even trying it.

There are a lot of excellent alternatives available nowadays, many of which are completely free. Two freeware examples (GIMP & Paint.NET) have been given here but there are many others. I've never been able to figure it out myself but I've seen masterpieces created in MS Paint. It's a matter of finding whatever suits you. Most graphics editing software supports Layers which is very useful. They're not essential for repainting but most Photoshop plug-ins are fully compatible with Paint Shop Pro & other graphics editors, even IrfanView. (I'm not suggesting that IrfanView is suitable for repainting.)

A lot of the paint kits available now are in the Photoshop native PSD format so it would be useful to have an editor that can open this format. However, this is not strictly necessary for basic repainting. In the end it all comes down to what you're familiar with & happy using. There's no point at all in having expensive software if you have no idea how to use it.

Repainting aircraft was always a good way of getting started in this fascinating hobby. The best part about it was always that it costs absolutely nothing except your time & skill, so what's stopping you having a go? Wink

PS. Just one example of an excellent freeware graphics editor with all the advanced features you could wish for. Ideal for repainting. http://www.magix.com/us/free-downloads/free-software/xtreme-photo-designer/

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Reply #15 - Nov 16^th, 2009 at 4:59am

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Hagar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

I'm still wondering how so many members here appear to use the latest version of Photoshop for repaints & screenshots. I don't believe that's legit either. Tongue

I use Photoshop CS3, completely legit, for my repaints, but I get it from work. I haven't upgraded to CS4 yet though.
Before, I used Illustrator 10, which I bought in a student version. Worked fine too, so you don't need Photoshop. PS has more possibilities though, but have a look at my old work (WoP P-51 & P-47, B-24's, Safir), that's all Illustrator (which is vector based btw).
I have done one paint in GIMP, works fine too, but then my boss gave me CS3...
I now make the repaint in Photoshop, but draw things like noseart etc in Illustrator CS3 and then import it into PS.

Snake, if you want to start, make sure you start with a model that comes with a (good) paintkit, makes life soooo much easier

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