There already is a AN225, C17 and Space Shuttle available for FS2004.

Crash

First off welcome to SimV if noone has told you yet.   Second, there are a small handfull of nice looking AN-124 / 225's out there, along with C-17's.   I have a very nice C-17 in my hangar that I might be willing to part with as a copy.  .... as to the Atlantis, I sense your pain. 

I do have FSX as well as 9, and after a number of years, (although it will never be) I have my FS9 looking almost as good as FSX on LOW-MEDIUM.  which is just above BARE DESERT in FSX.


I too would like newer planes once in a while, but keep your chin up and GOOGLE on standby.

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That is ultimately what he is getting at.  All of these wonderful new models (example: F18 for FSX/Accelleration) .... why cant the designers make something that looks just as good, but throw a FS9 panel in it, so that we can fly the same thing?

You're right crash.
The 3D models, the texturing, the animations, the special parts, etc... everything is very different between FS9 and FSX.

I mean, for some simple models, the creator *could* convert to an FS9 model, but he would have to:
- redo the texturing (to temove the bump-maps, convert to correct format, map on the object again etc...)
- rework all of the animations
- rework the panel in case he was using some special instruments
and that a lot of working hours.

And of course, all of the above is only possible if the 3D model (external+internal) is not too big, since the polygon-limit set by the FS9 compiler is much smaller than the FSX one (which is unlimited, I believe).

When a developper has spent many hours creating a plane for FSX, he certainly just don't want to spent additionnal hours to build a FS9 version. Also, if I understood correctly, the FSX SDK is more pleasant for the creators, or at least it provides stuff that was not possible before and they love that. Usually, they don't want to go back to the FS9 SDK once they got comfortable with the FSX one. Look at Tim Conrad, he was building some of the finests FS9 freeware models... now he totally switched to FSX models.

I don't think one can say that those guys "do not think about the FS9 pilots". Most of them have created models for FS9 for several years, and now they moved to the next generation. Those have done more than enough for the previous sim, they should not be blamed in any case.

We understand that you are currently unable to upgrade to FSX. Unfortunately for users that cannot obtain a copy of X, some developers have chosen to move on to the latest and greatest technology.

It is not meant to be a slight towards you or other strictly 2004 users, but some developers believe that the most effective way to deploy a new addon is to originally intend to make it for the latest FSX version (Accel/SP2). Although it is taking a while, FSX is something that the majority of simmers will convert to in the coming months/years once the latest computer technology becomes cheaper. Any way you look at it, FS2004 usage is gradually decreasing.

As has been mentioned, a developer would almost have to start from scratch with a new model if they wished to make a 2004 version of a design for you and other 2004 simmers that is originally native to FSX-SP2.

We understand the state of the global economy right now, and unfortunately the simmers with older tech are just going to have to be patient until things come back around.

In the end it is ultimately up to the individual designer to decide what plane he makes, and what versions it is for. I personally work in FSX only for a variety of reasons, and considering the fact that I sink hundreds of hours into something that will not make me any money to contribute to the gas & groceries that I have to buy...

Hopefully you can understand 

yes i understand and seen that one .

But to me 30 plus tax and the closes best buy for me is 20 miles one way.By the time you figure in the gas thats 5.50 for 2 gallons and than 30 for the game and tax it will be close to 40.00 for me to get.that could feed me for three days for food or get me to work for 4 days .so i can make it to live on i don't have that funds to get it .That is what i am saying to you guys there area lot of people in my situation love to have but don't and would like to have creators provide for us for a change .that is what i am saying but many of you don't see where i am coming from

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Trust me from experience, great models (for both FSX and FS9) are going to EXTREAMLY difficult and they will take hours, I made one plane, well ok it was a star ship from star trek, the USS Relant (never finished or released) but I only had the exterior model (well ok I had a very basic VC built, but never had gotten it to work correctly for what ever reason), and just the main saucer section (front rounded part, minus the rear squarish part) alone took me nearly a year to do, factor the rear part, plus the photon tube, necells grand total was about 2.5 years alone for the model, then the coloring of the model (applying the base textures with in the model its self as a secondary model to allow for higher details) about a month.

so total tome for the entire model, minus any textures (paint wise) about 2.75 years, and thats because of the extream level of detail I had done...and lhe level of detail was enough that you could see the small antennas on the model, and read the small print by the docking portal...


So yes planes of any kind good or not so great can take a while depending on how complex the model is or will be.


and most people think its so easy that anyone can do it, no its not...its a multi step process.


first you usually spend a good amount of time hand drawing what you want, eraseing it or starting over, making changes, etc, then you build the model, then have to test it, then add textures/colors, export and test again, fix any issues found during testing, reexport with the new changes/fixes, test again, fine tune any thing needed, retest, have private beta tests (optional part), then fix what ever they may have found, reexport and test after that then finialls put out public beta or what ever...and thats just part of it...it goes on more in depth, but thats just a basic summery....



Plus with the models of FSX and FS9 yes you can port models over from 9 (heck ive even gottem models from FSX to work in FSX already, but you will either A loose functionality (if porting from FSX to FS9) or you will not get full functioniality or capability from the model (or what ever) if your porting from FS9 to FSX, plus the sound files alone are a slight bit different, granted sounds will still work when porting from FS9 to FSX but the way the sounds are set up is a bit different.



so if you feel that some models arn't of the best quality (yes I know there are some that leave some things to be desired) and you want it done to your liking, why not pick up a copy of FSDS or GMAX or what ever and give it a try? its a rewarding experience once you figure the nitty gritty out Ive done some models (granted most of mine just wind up getting recycled) but I also have been messin with repainting and other parts like the CFG and what not...you can learn alot