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Oct 10th, 2009 at 8:34pm

peter-reebok   Offline
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time for a new PC, but probably take me 6 months to save for one!.
Have HP pentium 2.8G with 128mb radion 9550 card
MOtherboard has PCI slot for graphics, with AGP support.

For now, what graphics card should I get to make the best of what I have?
Running FSX with FTX scenery.
Have saitek pedals and logitech joystick.
Really enjoying FSX - have about 5 (real) hrs up oin a Jabiru out of Lilydale.

Suggestions?
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2009 at 9:44pm

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Well PCI is slow as a snail, AGP is old but Okay I guess if you can't buy a whole new System, I could try to find a PCI-E Motherboard or a PCI-E card that has been converted to AGP  Wink


Best option, buy whole new system Wink
 

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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2009 at 9:46pm

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Ok, looking for new system - getting confused as to how much bang for buck I need.

I7 860 system will cost me about $1500 - out of the question at present.

I can get a core2 quad 9400, with GTX260 card and 4gb ram, 800gb sataII drive, for around $800.
Should I choose XP home, or vista,?
know windows 7 is around the corner, but expect it to take 6 months to settle down in use.

Is this a sufficient leap forward from the P4?
running FSX with FTX Blue scenery expect to run 1600 x 1280 graphics at a decent frame rate. (23fps?)

currently running 1280 x 1024 at 22fps with minor stuttering.

Thanks for your assistance - much appreciated.
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 17th, 2009 at 1:05am

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peter-reebok wrote on Oct 16th, 2009 at 9:46pm:
Ok, looking for new system - getting confused as to how much bang for buck I need.

I7 860 system will cost me about $1500 - out of the question at present.

I can get a core2 quad 9400, with GTX260 card and 4gb ram, 800gb sataII drive, for around $800.
Should I choose XP home, or vista,?
know windows 7 is around the corner, but expect it to take 6 months to settle down in use.

Is this a sufficient leap forward from the P4?
running FSX with FTX Blue scenery expect to run 1600 x 1280 graphics at a decent frame rate. (23fps?)

currently running 1280 x 1024 at 22fps with minor stuttering.

Thanks for your assistance - much appreciated.


Windows 7 has no bugs (I am running a RC copy perfectly)

I would go for a i5 system, I do not know that much, but

Intel i5
Decent Motherboard
Nice 6-8Gb or RAM DDR3
GPU: ATi 58XX

Should be around : $1500

Sorry not much info but that ^ is basically a good setup to get Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 17th, 2009 at 1:31am
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Get i7 860 is you want to go with the LGA 1156 platform.

Get 4gb of DDR3-1600 if you plan to overclock, DDR3-1333 if not. Don't get 3gb of 6gb, them configurations are usually for LGA 1366 platforms.

Radeon 58xx



http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3661

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-p55-motherboard,2436-15.html

If you plan to overclock with a P55 I urge you to read that.


If it is out of your budget then a GTX 260 / Core 2 Quad should do, but I would overclock it.
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 19th, 2009 at 9:00pm

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LOL just gave in!.

Went to buy a Q9400 system - haggled with the shop, and ended up with a I7 860, P55 Mobo, 6gb DDR3 ram, GTX260, 1tb SataII drive and second 500gb 3gb/s hdd, 850w power supply, dvd 2L RW.

All my intentions went out the window when the I7 ended up $180 dearer than the Q9400 in total.

Thanks for the advice - I went soft and ended up with a better system anyway.
Kicker was when I pulled the original purchase info from existing PC, and found I bought it in early 2005.
nearly 5 years of use from it anyway!.

At least I should get a few years from this one as well!.
Here in Oz, W7 retail is still about 2 weeks away, so will buy XP, and wait for a while.
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2009 at 9:51pm
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Nice rig!

Make sure both hyper-threading and Intel Turbo boost are enabled in BIOS for some slight extra performance.  Smiley

hyperthreading information:
http://www.intel.com/technology/platform-technology/hyper-threading/index.htm


Intel turbo boost:
http://www.intel.com/technology/turboboost/
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 25th, 2009 at 10:04pm

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got the new system running on weekend.
Micro$oft doesnt sell XP any more since windows 7 came out, so installed 64bit windows 7.  At a price though!.
everything except my printer works, and will spend some time on that and hope for a good outcome soon.
With FSX, FTX Blue, mesh at 1m, water x2, high graphics settings on all (havent tried the highest settings) getting 35fps framerates, no stuttering, and I am very pleased with the result.  Very smooth, almost a completely different simulation from before.

Thanx fellas - only have to pay for it now!.
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 26th, 2009 at 4:46am

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Good to hear all went well, except that silly printer, it probably doesn't know what Windows 7 is  Grin
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 26th, 2009 at 8:20am

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peter-reebok wrote on Oct 25th, 2009 at 10:04pm:
got the new system running on weekend.
Micro$oft doesnt sell XP any more since windows 7 came out, so installed 64bit windows 7.  At a price though!.
everything except my printer works, and will spend some time on that and hope for a good outcome soon.
With FSX, FTX Blue, mesh at 1m, water x2, high graphics settings on all (havent tried the highest settings) getting 35fps framerates, no stuttering, and I am very pleased with the result.  Very smooth, almost a completely different simulation from before.

Thanx fellas - only have to pay for it now!.


Nice to hear yet another satisfied W7 simmer!

Tell it to Sir Nick when you see him, cause he's apparently still stuck in the last century... Maybe he's getting too old for this game! Grin

W7 rocks with FSX, yeahaah!

 
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Reply #10 - Oct 26th, 2009 at 11:03pm

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Looks like someone would like to be removed here too...   
 
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Reply #11 - Oct 27th, 2009 at 10:28am

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U just go ahead pal, this forum is apparently only for those who  want to pucker up, and btw it would be a good idea to call it "The Forum for Arrogant Flighsim Geeks"!

Bye...

 
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Reply #12 - Oct 27th, 2009 at 12:10pm

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laurits wrote on Oct 27th, 2009 at 10:28am:
U just go ahead pal, this forum is apparently only for those who  want to pucker up, and btw it would be a good idea to call it "The Forum for Arrogant Flighsim Geeks"!

Bye...


Laurits, please knock it off.

Peter-reebok's performance with FSX is comparable with what is currently obtained with windows XP and Vista. Do some research and you would find this out. Name calling is very immature, and let me remind you it has been Nick who has provided the many written guidelines for getting the most from FSX. He has done more for this forum than any other single person.
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 27th, 2009 at 12:18pm

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laurits wrote on Oct 27th, 2009 at 10:28am:
U just go ahead pal, this forum is apparently only for those who  want to pucker up, and btw it would be a good idea to call it "The Forum for Arrogant Flighsim Geeks"!

Bye...





hmmmm.. well, being
this is
a FLIGHT SIM website it would be a logical assumption that most are here for flight sim use which includes understanding OS's hardware and the simulation itself.   





What...   
Windows7 didnt get rid of your stutters and crashes???????




laurits wrote on Oct 27th, 2009 at 10:32am:
Revo:

Let me tell you the unpleasant truth:

YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO RUN THIS FLIGHTSIM GAME  WITHOUT STUTTERS AND CRASHES AND BLUE SCREENS NO MATTER WHAT TWEAK, HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE YOU INTEND TO USE!

That is a fact, an unpleasant fact, and people won't admit it!





I dont have crashes, I dont have stutters I can not tune out and I dont have blue screens...    but I also use XPx64 too and regardless have tested FSX on all the OS's on multiple machines and harware variations with the exact same results. W7 provides the same exact FPS rate as does Vista and XP in FSX, assuming the user knows what they are doing from the get-go.


Quite frankly I find both your attitude and your approach quite ridiculous..   very typical of a internet know-it-all BS'er who has nothing better to do than run around forums and try and stir up controversy and trouble simply because they are pissed at themselves for not having the ability to shut-up, listen, follow directions correctly...  and learn.


 
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Reply #14 - Oct 29th, 2009 at 12:39am

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Why must most hardware related issue and or stuff with Windows 7 end like this.  Angry

Also: I am pro Windows 7, I don't care if it doesn't give me better performance, but it is nice to have the latest tech and software, I know that Windows XP 64 is on par or even better, I don't mind, But in my opinion I have gotten better FPS in FS9 and other gamers (CSS, L4D, ARMA II) BUT, This could have been caused by the fresh install of 7  Wink
 

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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2009 at 9:58am

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Mazza wrote on Oct 29th, 2009 at 12:39am:
Why must most hardware related issue and or stuff with Windows 7 end like this.  Angry




What was posted has nothing to do with W7

It was to push buttons because someone is ticked off and has nothing better to do.

I dont care what people use

But, if there is BS being posted, or, if my name is included in a post, I am going to respond to it.




 
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Reply #16 - Nov 11th, 2009 at 12:34am

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Laurits:  where on earth did you drop in from.  Please go away, this is a helpful and always friendly forum - your knock em down, drag-em-out approach is right out of place.

NickN has been our benchmark, a continuous help, and unfailingly honest with us.  Without him, I would have ditched FSX yonks ago.

We all vary from Nick's advice and we go elsewhere too:  he appreciates that.  But for start up advice and help he has been vital.  And his knowledge of hardware is encylopediac, maybe because he has more than one PhD in electronic engineering.

Me, I have Vista HP 64 bit and Matrox TH2Go, both of which he pokes fun at, but he has always helped.  He is our Guru, if he isn't yours, go worship someone else.
 
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Reply #17 - Nov 17th, 2009 at 1:59pm

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are you still looking for a video card, I do have a spare 8800GTS sitting in its ESD bag needing a good home, still works (I plug it in and test it at least once a month to make sure it still works and get all the parts moving) its only got 320MB ram on it but it ran FS9 smoothly as far as I could tell its PCI though (purple slot is the slot im thinking of)
 

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Reply #18 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 12:23am

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Bought a whole new system instead!.
But thanks
 
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Reply #19 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 11:44am

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ah cool, jsut wanted to know Smiley hope it works well for ya!
 

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