Search the archive:
YaBB - Yet another Bulletin Board
 
   
 
Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print
Perfect SETTINGS for FSX? (Read 1686 times)
Sep 26th, 2009 at 3:32pm

andy69fly   Offline
Captain
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 3
***
 
PLEASE HELP! I spend hours and hours to find a perfect setting for my FSX... but still slow and errors....

just bought new items for my pc:

- XP32bit 2002 with SP3

- Intel Core TM Quad CPU Q9550, 2.83GHz, 4 GB RAM

- Evga NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 2 GB

- Evga Nforce 790i ultra SLI Motherboard DDR3/2000 Mhz SLIready, PCI 1.0 2.0

- 1000w Power Supply

anybody can help??? i am grounded.... THANKS
Cry
 
IP Logged
 
Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 7:41am

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
First - Tune your system and FSX. Good advice here: http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973

Second - There are many different opinions on what's "perfect" display settings in FSX. You have make up your own opinion on how to balance display settings and performance/smoothness. Eventually you might use different display settings depending on the type of flight you do (VFR flying low and slow, IFR flying high and fast).
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #2 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 8:49am

jwenham   Offline
Colonel
Clear to Land... Are you
sure?

Posts: 266
*****
 
Ulf B wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 7:41am:
First - Tune your system and FSX. Good advice here: http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973

Second - There are many different opinions on what's "perfect" display settings in FSX. You have make up your own opinion on how to balance display settings and performance/smoothness. Eventually you might use different display settings depending on the type of flight you do (VFR flying low and slow, IFR flying high and fast).

Hey Ulf, what do you have you AA set to? Multi 4x or do you use the combined 8xs. I get far smoother flight more so while during takeoff and landing with the 4x multi. I do see a bit of shimmer but the performance benefit outways it to me.
 

Intel i7 940 2.93 clocked to 4.0ghz Asus P6T Deluxe 6gb OCZ 1600 8-8-8-24 EVGA GTX 260 Superclocked Edition Thermalright 120 CPU Cooler Power PC & Cooling 750w PSU 1 tb Seagate Barracuda HD 500 gb Seagate Barracude HD 22" Viewsonic Widescreen Track IR 4 XP Pro x64 www.fairtax.org
IP Logged
 
Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 9:22am

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
jwenham wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 8:49am:
Hey Ulf, what do you have you AA set to? Multi 4x or do you use the combined 8xs. I get far smoother flight more so while during takeoff and landing with the 4x multi. I do see a bit of shimmer but the performance benefit outways it to me.


Exactly what I found! My experience is that AA 4x, Multisampling is the best trade off between visuals and performance. I don't use nHancer because I couldn't get rid of the shimmering and with the later nVIDIA drivers I got pretty much the same result with 4x Multi as with nHancer 4x combined. I now use the nVIDIA drivers 190.62 and have enabled AA in FSX since the nHancer beta recommended this for FSX due to changes in the nVIDIA 190 drivers. I also have set Enhance the application setting in the CP.

As said, I'm happy with running FSX with 4x multi + Enhance the application setting and AA enabled in FSX.
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #4 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 1:37pm

laurits   Offline
Colonel
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 38
*****
 
Interesting perspective....

Do you think these 190.62 Nvidia drivers will work with my old 8800 GTS 640 Mb?

I'm still on the 182.50 drivers, but always looking for ANY new tweak and "miracle" adjustment (can't help it, optimist and perfectionist!)

Do I understand you correctly, Ulf, that you don't use nHancer at all?


 
IP Logged
 
Reply #5 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 1:58pm

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
laurits wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 1:37pm:
Interesting perspective....
Do you think these 190.62 Nvidia drivers will work with my old 8800 GTS 640 Mb?


The latest nVIDIA drivers for the Geforce 8-series is 190.62. I think most simmers use older drivers. 182.50 seems to be recommended by most simmers since nHancer do work with these drivers. For now there is only a beta version of nHancer available for the 190.62 driver.

laurits wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 1:37pm:
Interesting perspective....
I'm still on the 182.50 drivers, but always looking for ANY new tweak and "miracle" adjustment (can't help it, optimist and perfectionist!)

Do I understand you correctly, Ulf, that you don't use nHancer at all?


I haven't experienced any impact on performance in FSX with any the latest nVIDIA drivers (181.22 - 190.62).

No I'm not using nHancer. I used to, but for some time now I haven't noticed much difference in shimmering (AA performance) in FSX with or without nHancer. But this is my opinion. Running nHancer with combined AA will decrease performance in FSX.
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #6 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 2:03pm

laurits   Offline
Colonel
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 38
*****
 
Thanks, appreciate this, I'll try the new drivers and see if any difference with or without nHancer.

 
IP Logged
 
Reply #7 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 3:50pm

machineman9   Offline
Colonel
Nantwich, England

Gender: male
Posts: 5255
*****
 
As I said in the other thread... 32 bit operating systems only see 3.7Gb memory (usually. But for this, it is pretty much that)

3.7Gb - 2Gb graphics memory = 1.7Gb actual RAM type memory your computer can use.

But I don't think on 32 bit that any software is allowed to use more than 2Gb RAM, so either way, you have more memory than you think you have.

Getting a 64bit operating system would probably help, but is costly. A cheap solution is to lower the amount of autogen.


I'll let someone else confirm this, but this is probably the issue. You've set up the game for specifications you thought you had, but don't.
 

...
IP Logged
 
Reply #8 - Oct 2nd, 2009 at 5:44pm

wsciutti   Offline
Colonel
Fly Anytime!
Chesterfield, VA

Gender: male
Posts: 92
*****
 
JW and Ulf,

Pls share how you eliminate shimmering with 4xS Multi?
FSX Settings?

On my system, it looks like an ocean moving.

i7 920@3.8/260 standard with 182.50 and nHancer/3Gb@7-8-7-20.
75% auto/complexity/1x low or 2x low/30 locked or unlimited with Capt Sim 757.
TBM:80
no bufferpools

Thanks.

Jack S.

 
IP Logged
 
Reply #9 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 9:31am

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
Well,

I have now installed the nVIDIA 191.03 beta drivers and nHancer 2.5.5. I'm now running nHancer with 8x AA combined and I still have some shimmering in FSX, but it's OK. I'll continue to use nHancer.

Quote:
Pls share how you eliminate shimmering with 4xS Multi?
FSX Settings?


When I used nVIDIA CP settings 4x AA Multi, I set FSX display settings for Filtering = trilinear and Anti-Aliasing checked.
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 11:25am

laurits   Offline
Colonel
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 38
*****
 
With the rig in your signature, there's still shimmer?

Oh boy, I'll relax now with my Q6600/8800 GTS then!

I think the new Nvidia drivers are OK, I finally moved from the 182.50, and it looks fine.

 
IP Logged
 
Reply #11 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 12:11pm

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
laurits wrote on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 11:25am:
With the rig in your signature, there's still shimmer?


I don't understand that comment? Shimmering textures has nothing to do with performance. You get some amount of shimmer using any graphics card. There was some hope that the new AA features on the Radeon 5870 card would help, but initial reports on another forum is negative on this point.

Some FSX autogen building textures shimmer and that's caused by bad texture design. Only help would be autogen replacements.
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #12 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:04pm

laurits   Offline
Colonel
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 38
*****
 
Yeah, or a completely new Flight Simulator, huh?

The comment was not to offend or confuse you, just a statement about me not understanding that with High End / Expensive equipment like in your sig, the performance of this flightsim is STILL NOT perfect...

That boggles the mind. Roll Eyes

Maybe OK they fired the Aces Team, anyhow... Grin

 
IP Logged
 
Reply #13 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:08pm

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
laurits wrote on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:04pm:
Yeah, or a completely new Flight Simulator, huh?

The comment was not to offend or confuse you, just a statement about me not understanding that with High End / Expensive equipment like in your sig, the performance of this flightsim is STILL NOT perfect...

That boggles the mind. Roll Eyes

Maybe OK they fired the Aces Team, anyhow... Grin



Well, you have to explain to me how shimmering relates to performance.  Grin
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #14 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:21pm

laurits   Offline
Colonel
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 38
*****
 
Hmmm... What's your point?

You mention this yourself:

"Some FSX autogen building textures shimmer and that's caused by bad texture design. Only help would be autogen replacements."

= New Sim, new autogen...

Change the trees too maybe a good idea.




 
IP Logged
 
Reply #15 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:30pm

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
laurits wrote on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:04pm:
The comment was not to offend or confuse you, just a statement about me not understanding that with High End / Expensive equipment like in your sig, the performance of this flightsim is STILL NOT perfect...


So you seriously think that spending more or less money on hardware would have any impact on texture shimmering?  Grin
You can't be serious.

And of course new hardware is fun. During this winter I'll replace my i7 940 with a i7 975 and the GTX285 with a GTX300. And it's fun. I have a very smooth and fast FSX and it's going to be even better.  Cool
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #16 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 2:10pm

JoBee   Offline
Colonel
Better to give than receive.

Posts: 582
*****
 
Ulf B wrote on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:30pm:
During this winter I'll replace my i7 940 with a i7 975 and the GTX285 with a GTX300.

Uh.....can I have your old one?

....I'll pay the shipping.


regards,
Joe
 

Don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
IP Logged
 
Reply #17 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 2:23pm

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
JoBee wrote on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 2:10pm:
Ulf B wrote on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 1:30pm:
During this winter I'll replace my i7 940 with a i7 975 and the GTX285 with a GTX300.

Uh.....can I have your old one?

....I'll pay the shipping.


regards,
Joe


Sorry, but I plan to build a computer from old hardware.
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Reply #18 - Oct 4th, 2009 at 5:44am

laurits   Offline
Colonel
I Like Flight Simulation!

Posts: 38
*****
 
Mycket bra, gratulerer!

Men tyvär, jeg undres over svensk humor, eller mangel på samma!

 
IP Logged
 
Reply #19 - Oct 4th, 2009 at 7:00am

Ulf B   Offline
Colonel
Fly FS
Sweden

Posts: 35
*****
 
laurits wrote on Oct 4th, 2009 at 5:44am:
Mycket bra, gratulerer!

Men tyvär, jeg undres over svensk humor, eller mangel på samma!



Smiley
 

Ulf B
Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz
OCZ Platinum XTC DDR3 1600MHz 3x2GB
ZOTAC GTX 480 AMP!
Vista Home Premium 64 SP1, FSX SP2 on VelociRaptor, NOD32
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print