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Sep 3rd, 2009 at 8:42am

JakesF14   Offline
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Hi there,

I want to start design a plane, but all my favourites is already built, and wondering for a long time now what would be nice. ok it will be my first design, and you guys enspired me with the one year per plane, but I am keen. have GMAX.

any suggestions/requests?
 

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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2009 at 9:04am

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F-16XL 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-16XL

There isn't one ANYWHERE for FS9 or FSX.

There was one a long time ago for CFS, but it doesn't work in FSX at all, and not very well in FS9.

This is the one plane I have always wanted in FS.  I hope I'm not alone.

 
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2009 at 9:27am

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That would be a challenge! Will start searching for Info as much as i can get! anyone with info, photos etc can PM me, The amount of info will decide if I can take it up!  Smiley

Thanks Shane. great Idea!
 

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Reply #3 - Sep 4th, 2009 at 3:12pm

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JakesF14 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2009 at 9:27am:
That would be a challenge! Will start searching for Info as much as i can get! anyone with info, photos etc can PM me, The amount of info will decide if I can take it up!  Smiley

Thanks Shane. great Idea!

Please keep us posted on how it's going if you decide to make the plane  Smiley
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 5th, 2009 at 10:46am

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If you do decide to make the F-16 XL, there are some pics and info here: http://www.fsdome.com/aviation-encyclopedia/planes/country/usa/planes/113.htm
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 19th, 2009 at 12:20pm

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ShaneG wrote on Sep 3rd, 2009 at 9:04am:
F-16XL 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-16XL

There isn't one ANYWHERE for FS9 or FSX.

There was one a long time ago for CFS, but it doesn't work in FSX at all, and not very well in FS9.

This is the one plane I have always wanted in FS.  I hope I'm not alone.



Ugh..  Please not ANOTHER F-16 variant! Tongue  No offense, and don't get me wrong; it's a beautiful plane, but the F-16 has been SO overdone...

If you want to try something unique, historically significant, hasn't been done, and would be a great beginner plane, try this one:

Lockheed Sirius
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 21st, 2009 at 4:30am

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Jakes

Building models is a very long frustrating learning curve

To be able to do this you really need to be making something you are really interested in.

It's not a good idea to make something as a request as the drive will just not be there.

There must be something you like not yet built

Garry
 
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Reply #7 - Sep 27th, 2009 at 8:40pm

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The GlaStar GS-1. None exist for FS2004 and X. (I believe) It is a very cool plane. It is a kit built plane by Glasair aviation. I don't think it would be to hard. Not as hard as some planes.

This is a picture of a glastar that belongs to one of my friends.

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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2009 at 2:58am

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garryrussell wrote on Sep 21st, 2009 at 4:30am:
Jakes

Building models is a very long frustrating learning curve

To be able to do this you really need to be making something you are really interested in.

It's not a good idea to make something as a request as the drive will just not be there.

There must be something you like not yet built

Garry



You are right, and I am only trying to find out what would be worth the while - my favourite - the F-14 is so overdone. so many models, that I try to see is there anything uot there I do not know about, but will like so much it is worth building  Smiley
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2009 at 12:50pm
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How about a helicopter like a Kaman K-max?
Smiley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaman_K-MAX

 
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Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2009 at 2:57pm

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BrandonF wrote on Sep 27th, 2009 at 8:40pm:
The GlaStar GS-1. None exist for FS2004 and X. (I believe) It is a very cool plane. It is a kit built plane by Glasair aviation. I don't think it would be to hard. Not as hard as some planes.

This is a picture of a glastar that belongs to one of my friends.

Brandon


A beautiful plane and looks like a good starter model too.  It looks like it will test you on most of the features you'll need to learn, i.e. booleans, extruding, etc...


 
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 12:59am

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You say you don’t know which aircraft to design?  Just listen to the words… “Which aircraft” implies an existing design, so how can you design something that is already designed?  So many people here talk of designing but they are rendering a virtual recreation of something already designed.
If you are going to design it, that means you start with a clean sheet of paper.  It may be inspired by an existing design, but you are putting your ideas on a fresh page or in this case the confuser’s monitor.
The model aircraft world and the Home-built aircraft world both run on people making their vision real.  We in the flight sim world have every opportunity to try out anything that turns our crank without risk of life or limb.
So if you really want to “design” something, and also keep you motivated to engage in what it takes to learn this process, think about what you want to see in an aircraft and have you vision take flight.

Harold
p.s. my baby can be seen at www.dickert.ca/swift ;  
 

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Reply #12 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 2:48am

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Dickert wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 12:59am:
You say you don’t know which aircraft to design?  Just listen to the words… “Which aircraft” implies an existing design, so how can you design something that is already designed?  So many people here talk of designing but they are rendering a virtual recreation of something already designed.
If you are going to design it, that means you start with a clean sheet of paper.  It may be inspired by an existing design, but you are putting your ideas on a fresh page or in this case the confuser’s monitor.
The model aircraft world and the Home-built aircraft world both run on people making their vision real.  We in the flight sim world have every opportunity to try out anything that turns our crank without risk of life or limb.
So if you really want to “design” something, and also keep you motivated to engage in what it takes to learn this process, think about what you want to see in an aircraft and have you vision take flight.

Harold
p.s. my baby can be seen at www.dickert.ca/swift   


May I correct you? "Which aircraft" implies not which existing model. I want to do a model that is not yet built for any sim. Jus a bit of background:
I am an architect, and more specificly, my area of expertise is 3D visualisations, renderings and animations. so I am well aware of designing, boolean operations, extrudings, revolving objects and so on. I have experience in AutoCAD (3D), Inventor, a little bit of Revit, 3ds MAX, Maya, as well as photoshop for textures and so on. So the challenge I want to take up is no far reached like it sounds. The ONLY thing I do not have is time! so yeah, it will take  a long time to create a new model. The converting of the model to work in FS is another story, where i do not have experience in, but I am keen to learn. Smiley
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 3:37am

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JakesF14 wrote on Oct 13th, 2009 at 2:48am:
Dickert wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 12:59am:
You say you don’t know which aircraft to design?  Just listen to the words… “Which aircraft” implies an existing design, so how can you design something that is already designed?  So many people here talk of designing but they are rendering a virtual recreation of something already designed.
If you are going to design it, that means you start with a clean sheet of paper.  It may be inspired by an existing design, but you are putting your ideas on a fresh page or in this case the confuser’s monitor.
The model aircraft world and the Home-built aircraft world both run on people making their vision real.  We in the flight sim world have every opportunity to try out anything that turns our crank without risk of life or limb.
So if you really want to “design” something, and also keep you motivated to engage in what it takes to learn this process, think about what you want to see in an aircraft and have you vision take flight.

Harold
p.s. my baby can be seen at www.dickert.ca/swift   


May I correct you? "Which aircraft" implies not which existing model. I want to do a model that is not yet built for any sim.

Harold is referring to the overused word "designer" to describe people who build virtual 3D models of existing objects. This has always annoyed me too as although many are very talented they are not designers in the true sense of the word. Unfortunately I can't think of a good alternative at the moment. Tongue

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Jus a bit of background:

It seems you're far more qualified than most of us so you already have a big advantage. I agree with Garry & would start with something basic. You can use this to learn all the things you don't know about compiling it to use in FS, panels, flight dynamics & so on. Don't be too ambitious & take it gradually. There is an awful lot to learn & people expect it all nowadays.

When you're ready to start on your project choose an aircraft that you care passionately about as you'll be spending a lot of time with it. Do what you want & not what others suggest. That is the best advice I can give you. Smiley
 

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Reply #14 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 3:54am

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I apologise for a misunderstanding Harold. You meant well.
It would be nice to create something all new. in fact I have a whole new creation I want to do. But basics first, and that is why I want to do a small plane first to learn. I know there is a lot of designers that will help and give advice  Smiley that is what I like about SimV! always friendly helping members Grin

 

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