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Jun 20th, 2009 at 7:55pm

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The title says it all.  I have FSX Acceleration.  I installed FSX SDK, then installed SDK SP1a and then SDK Acceleration.  In FSX there is not a tool menu tab and I have tried everything that I can find on the subject and nothing works.  When you go to the Start Menu, FSX SDK shows up, but the only thing there is the manual, there is nothing else, I can not get into any of the tool kits from the start menu.

I ran the SDK ConfigSDK.exe tool.

FSX is on G:, FSX SDK is on C:.  I have modified my dll.xml per the suggestions that I can find and this file is:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>..C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\Object_Placement.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>..C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>..C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

</SimBase.Document>


I have removed my addons (FSUIPC4, AICarreirs & Autothumbnail) and my Addon Menu tab no longer appears and that is as it should be.

When I start FSX it never asked me if I should trust this software and from what I can find it should have asked me three times for the three different tool kits that should show up in the tool tab.  In my fsx.cfg file under "Trusted" there is no mention of the three tool kits that should show up.

I do have MyTraffic X and I have not removed that.

Any ideas anyone?

Rod
 

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Reply #1 - Jun 20th, 2009 at 9:41pm

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Did you first install the SDK from the FS-X Deluxe RTM  DVD?



 

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Reply #2 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 5:23am

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Reply #3 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 8:22am

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Felix/FFDS wrote on Jun 20th, 2009 at 9:41pm:
Did you first install the SDK from the FS-X Deluxe RTM  DVD?



Yes:
I first installed SDK RTM from my FSX Deluxe CD.
Next I installed SDK SP1a from FSX Acceleration CD.
Next installed SDK Acceleration from the FSX Acceleration CD.

Rebooted between all of the above installs.

Yesterday before I started this tread I had already tried all of the suggestions from this link that ShaneG posted in response to my thread and none of them have worked.

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_(FSX)#Installat...

Regards,

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Reply #4 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 8:53am

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Hi Folks

Rod -
They won't have shown up
yet
in your fsx.CFG or onscreen menu
because you have a fault in
all
your PATH entries-
<Path>
..
C:\Program Files\

Remove the
..


HTH
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Reply #5 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 11:12am

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basys wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 8:53am:
Hi Folks

Rod -
They won't have shown up
yet
in your fsx.CFG or onscreen menu
because you have a fault in
all
your PATH entries-
<Path>
..
C:\Program Files\

Remove the
..


HTH
ATB
Paul



Paul, I modified my path as suggested, see below.  It still does not work.  Does FSX and SDK have to be on the same drive?  I have FSX on G: and SDX on C:.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\Object_Placement.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
<Path>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

</SimBase.Document>

Regards,

Rod

 

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Reply #6 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:10pm

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Hi Folks

Rod -
At least it's a step forward.     Smiley

Another oddity -
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>


That group-level line should be -
<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>


Component level lines ar correct.



If that doesn't work -
A few questions -
- What OS are you using ?
- What is the path to your dll.xml ?
- Are there now any SDK related entries in fsx.CFG [TRUSTED] section ?



HTH
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Reply #7 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:12pm

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This loading process will not tolerate "spaces" in a pathname. Either rename all the paths, or place the entire path declaration in quotes:

Code:
<Path>"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll"</Path> 



If you ever decide to reinstall, for goodness' sake don't use the bloody default paths! Use something more sane, such as C:\FSX_SDK and you'll save a lot of headaches...  Grin
 

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Reply #8 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:15pm

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Hi Folks

Bill -
xml fully supports spaces in paths,
and quotes are unnescessary.

HTH
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Reply #9 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:20pm

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basys wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:15pm:
Hi Folks

Bill -
xml fully supports spaces in paths,
with or without quotes.

HTH
ATB
Paul


Riddle me this, then. It only worked for me after adding quote marks the first time around...  The problem isn't XML related, it's the command line argument that FSX passes to the OS to load the .dll that's whitespace intolerant...

When I got smarter, I reinstalled using a short path with no white space at all, and never had a problem since...  Shocked
 

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Reply #10 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:22pm

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Hi Folks

Bill -
Here's my working version -
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
  <Descr>Launch</Descr>
  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
  <Launch.Addon>
		<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>
		<Disabled>False</Disabled>
		<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
		<Path>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
		<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>
		<Disabled>False</Disabled>
		<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
		<Path>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
		<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>
		<Disabled>False</Disabled>
		<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
		<Path>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
		<Name>FS SECRETPROJECT</Name>
		<Disabled>False</Disabled>
		<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
		<Path>Extensions\SECRETPROJECT.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
		<Name>FS Recorder Module</Name>
		<Disabled>True</Disabled>
		<ManualLoad>True</ManualLoad>
		<Path>Modules\RecorderFSX.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
		  <Name>FSUIPC 4</Name>
 		 <Disabled>False</Disabled>
 		 <Path>Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
  <Launch.Addon>
		<Name>FSCopilot</Name>
		<Disabled>True</Disabled>
		<ManualLoad>True</ManualLoad>
		<Path>Modules\FSCopilot.dll</Path>
	</Launch.Addon>
</SimBase.Document> 



These 3 menu accessed tools aren't command line launched.

Agree using command line can be a pain,
I do have an alternative for that
just never got round to writing up an FSDev Wiki article.



I will definitely be using a short path version
if I ever have to reinstall eithe FSX or the SDK.



HTH
ATB
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Reply #11 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:31pm

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I don't doubt for a moment that it works... for many people's system. It does not however mean that it will work for everyone's system.

Obviously, it didn't work for mine, else I wouldn't have mentioned it at all. Several of the ACES devs had suggested wrapping the complete path in quote marks back during beta testing, and it worked...  Wink

Even my dev computer running Vista cannot recognize whitespace in pathnames, hence the Desktop Icon's path for Visual Studio is wrapped in quotes:

Code:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE\devenv.exe" 

 

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Reply #12 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:38pm

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Hi  Folks

Bill -
Agree,
and agree it can be an issue on Vista.    Smiley

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Reply #13 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 1:36pm

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basys wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 12:10pm:
Hi Folks

Rod -
At least it's a step forward.     Smiley

Another oddity -
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>


That group-level line should be -
<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>


Component level lines ar correct.



If that doesn't work -
A few questions -
- What OS are you using ?
- What is the path to your dll.xml ?
- Are there now any SDK related entries in fsx.CFG [TRUSTED] section ?



HTH
ATB
Paul


This modification did the trick Paul, thanks for the help!

Rod

 

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Reply #14 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 3:35pm

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Hi Folks

idahosurge wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 1:36pm:
This modification did the trick Paul, thanks for the help!

No worries.

Now your real nightmares begin.    Grin

ATB
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