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Reply #15 - Mar 28^th, 2009 at 9:14pm

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blazer003 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2009 at 9:25pm:

You guys are awesome. Thanks so much. Before posting here above I went down to Frys and bought the Saitek yoke and throttle quadrant, however it was miscalibrated (one of those time the old manual microsoft calibration would be nice) and so though the yoke was in the center indent, the control was reading slightly right. To fix that I adjusted the dead zone, however I had to move the controller somewhat significantly to the left to get it to turn, as it thought it was still in the deadzone.

So I took it back, and decided to check out what everyone else thought and was using. I think I'm going to go ahead and try out the Saitek again. The other thing was I didn't get the pedals, and it's nearly impossible to fly without them (from my short experience anyway. Anyone using a yoke and now pedals?). I tried mapping the rudder to one of the throttle levers. Oh what fun. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Anyway, thanks again everyone for your input, I really appreciate it.

I had that exact same problem and its an easy fix.

I just opened up the base of the Yoke (very easy, no springs to worry about falling out) and found there were 2 Analog sensors in there, the one closest to the front is the one you will want to mess with. All I did was move the gear that's attached to the sensor one notch to the left I believe. The hardest part of doing this was wrapping my head around which way to move the gear since its all upside down. But after that the yoke was completely centered/calibrated.

I love the Saitek flight yoke and pedals and plan to get the switch panel at some point. I have also seen rumors that they are releasing LCD gauges (Clicky) that can also attach to the yoke. They look pretty cool too!

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Reply #16 - Mar 30^th, 2009 at 4:36pm

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I use a MSFF2 with a Saitek x-45 combo. While the stick doesn't represent whats used in civil aircaraft it works for me cause I also fly combat in IL2:1946. The official MSFFB2 is no longer in production. However, you can still get them on ebay. Someone was manufacturing them and selling them online. I don't know if they are still available.

Edit: I found them here: http://www.gogamer.com/Microsoft-Sidewinder-Force-Feedback-2-Joystick-Joysticks_...

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Reply #17 - Mar 30^th, 2009 at 4:47pm

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I hace ch yoke and pedals. One problem with my Yoke is the my monting thread stripped. so I can only lock one side now. pretty sad. 250 bucks pretty much wasted because of 1 bolt. sigh Cry

Cry

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Reply #18 - Mar 30^th, 2009 at 9:01pm

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Just a quick update. I went ahead and re purchased the Saitek set, this time getting the pedals too, along with the Yoke and throttles, and I'm really happy with it for the most part. The only part I'm having trouble with is the brakes. I'm not at home and someone else seems to have had the same problem and fixed it, so I'll try that, but my breaks are being applied all the time and I can't quite figure out why.

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Reply #19 - Mar 31^st, 2009 at 5:04am

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blazer003 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2009 at 9:01pm:

Just a quick update. I went ahead and re purchased the Saitek set, this time getting the pedals too, along with the Yoke and throttles, and I'm really happy with it for the most part. The only part I'm having trouble with is the brakes. I'm not at home and someone else seems to have had the same problem and fixed it, so I'll try that, but my breaks are being applied all the time and I can't quite figure out why.

Blazer,

You need to go into your control setting in FS, and find the setting for the toe brakes under control axis', you must set the null zone to zero, and the sensitivity as high as it will go, this should cure your problem. If it does not, try checking the tick box that says "reverse axis".

Ric B.

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Reply #20 - Mar 31^st, 2009 at 3:26pm

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RIC_BARKER wrote on Mar 31^st, 2009 at 5:04am:

Blazer,

You need to go into your control setting in FS, and find the setting for the toe brakes under control axis', you must set the null zone to zero, and the sensitivity as high as it will go, this should cure your problem. If it does not, try checking the tick box that says "reverse axis".

Ric B.

hey, it was me with the issue earlier and this fix works perfectly. you will be much happier once that is sorted out. Wink

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Reply #21 - Mar 31^st, 2009 at 3:46pm

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My trusty Saitek Cyborg Eve Force, satisfies all my daily flying requirements for all my fixed wing, and flex wing, aircraft.

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/joysticks.htm

It has everything I need to control my aircraft...and costs the Princely sum of £25! .... Smiley

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I also have a "Trust" Steering Wheel and Pedals, for my Truck Driving Simulators...

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http://www.trust.com/products/product_detail.aspx?item=13153

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Reply #22 - Apr 7^th, 2009 at 1:32am

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Logitech 3D Extreme Pro flightstick; Microsoft Intellipoint optical trackball (had it for years). And a trusty PS2 keyboard...

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Reply #23 - Apr 7^th, 2009 at 11:16am

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Its a funny old do...

I've recently tried Sim Flying with a Yoke and Pedals (borrowed)...

...and my usual, trusty Flight, Twist, Joystick...

..and do you know what...for cheapness, ie:low cost, and simplicity...I find my "point and fly" Twist Joystick with Throttle, full-fills all my overall, daily flight activities, in all the different aircraft... Wink

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Reply #24 - Apr 7^th, 2009 at 2:28pm

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My X52 Pro and pedals are the high point of my whole setup, notwithstanding the fact that i have a triple head 2 go on a core i7 system Cheesy

Cheesy

...they are THAT good

now i should only find the time (and energy) to build me a supporting mount to hold the stick and throttle in place... i currently have a stack of objects to put the stick on at a comfortable height... namely the trash bin, a PSU box and a hard cover book on 3D programming Grin

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the throttle unit is on a little table-like piece of furniture, but that must be addressed too since it keeps sliding back and forth ...once the rubber grips get dirty they start sliding... and that applies for the rudder as well...

or maybe i should just clean the floor now Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Cheers

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Reply #25 - Apr 7^th, 2009 at 7:49pm

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Of course you need a way to pitch and roll but those rudder pedals have to be the olive in the martini - that final touch. Before I unleash that 'realism rudder enable' again, I'll have something for my feet. My X52 is fine in the X/Y ax(es?) but the twist grip is almost laughable for realistic rudder input. Having just squirted some silicone spray on said X52, I may be in the market for something new. The control feel has dampened nicely but there's always Murphy's Law

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Reply #26 - Apr 8^th, 2009 at 9:44am

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I ordered my pedals along with the stick, so I never really knew how the X52 twist grip feels for rudder control...

when I first got it, I realized that it would be necessary to relearn to fly all over again with the pedals, so to remove my reflex of "ruddering" with my right hand, I mapped the twist grip to do nothing more than look left / right... it took some getting used to at first... I often found myself looking right when i wanted to TURN right Tongue

Tongue

...but it quickly becomes second-nature

the Pro Flight pedals are VERY good, but i can't say how it compares to any other similar device out there, since this is my first joystick that's worthy of note Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

IMO the only thing that peeves me a bit is the fact that the pedals sometimes feel a bit loose if you rock your feet to the sides... there's a bit of travel there... but it doesn't affect at all the feel when flying, since it's not a movement one normally does when flying... or at any other time for that matter Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

in the end, though, the pedals are exactly like you said: the olive in the martini! Cheesy

Cheesy

i can't imagine myself not using them anymore

and using the twist grip for looking to the sides is the next best thing if you don't have TrackIR Wink

Wink

Cheers

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Reply #27 - Apr 8^th, 2009 at 11:38am

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HarvesteR
Sounds like you have TrakIR. Tell me all the good things about it. This whole business of looking around with the hat switch in VC mode isn't bad when you have a plane with a VC cockpit but that TrakIR sure looks like my next toy - if wishes were fishes (quoting the wife here)

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Reply #28 - Apr 9^th, 2009 at 2:07am

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olderndirt wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 11:38am:

HarvesteR
Sounds like you have TrakIR. Tell me all the good things about it. This whole business of looking around with the hat switch in VC mode isn't bad when you have a plane with a VC cockpit but that TrakIR sure looks like my next toy - if wishes were fishes (quoting the wife here)

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I don't have TrackIR... yet... currently i use the twist grip to look to the sides... but i've seen videos of people using it and it seems awesome!

it's the next thing on my wishlist too Wink

Wink

Cheers

Cheesy

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Reply #29 - Apr 10^th, 2009 at 10:50pm

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I like the Saitek stuff!

Started out with a ST90, then upped to the X52 Pro. Cured the 'cheap gamey' feel by mounting them to smallish 'out'boards on my desk.

Recently got the Cyborg keyboard (for the lighted keys) and the ProSwitch panel. Luvin' the whole setup! {and it was less than $2495 + $695 + $449 which would sum up to the wife kickin my ---!}

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