Simviation Forum - TEAM FS KBT F-18E problem pls help!

Reply #15 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 7:42pm

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Hi Guys

I have been monitoring this thread tonight and have just downloaded the Warhawks Package from the above links and I dont have a problem with it at all, the VC works fine, its crystal clear. I am running Acceleration, go figure

Just letting you know that it works ok for me. Wink

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Reply #16 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 7:46pm

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I think this is just gonna be one of those : It either does or doesn't work addons. Undecided

carcher126: did you get both? And what specs do you have, maybe it's a system related issue. Undecided

For the sake of convenience for anyone else wishing to test this, here is the link from the original post from December 2008:

FSX Team FS KBT F18F Super Hornet WarHawks Package
http://www.simviation.com/simviation/static.php?ID=64&page=22

And the thread where we've tried to tackle this problem before:

http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1229126946

Same results, some had no problems, others did.

« Last Edit: Jun 21^st, 2010 at 1:12pm by ShaneG »

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Reply #17 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 8:21pm

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Hi again

Yes is the answer d/l both ac and just flown both and none have a VC problem, clear glass on both.

Specs are nVidia geforce 7950 GX2
Core 2 6600 @ 2.4Ghz
XP home sp3
4G ram

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Reply #18 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 8:27pm

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I see nothing that jumps out as obvious, I was just comparing these to the others in the above mentioned thread, and they all seem to vary.

this worked:

Windows XP Home + SP3 32 bit
FSX+SP2 (not Acceleration)
AMD dual core 4400+ 32 bit
2GB dual channel memory
512MB Nvidia GT8500 (with nvidia 181.22 drivers and Nhancer set up as Nick’s post)

And your's and Daube's work

These did not:

My rig is:
8800GT with 512
Q6600
4 GB RAM
Vista Ultimate 32 bit
FSX with Acceleration

Hi
My rig:
CPU E8400 Dual core 3.00GHz
RAM 4.00 GB
Video card nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB Driver 7.15.11.8048
Widows Vista 32-bit
FSX Acceleration SP2

This setup does not work in VC. Could be interesting to know which setup working rigs have.

putte

And my specs:

AMD 5400 dual core 2.8Ghz
ATI 1650pro 512mb
2Gb OCZ 800mhz RAM
XPpro SP3
FSX/Acceleration.

Don't you just love these kind of situations? Grin

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Reply #19 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 8:33pm

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Hi Shane

Is it not a Vista or 64bit problem? Is XP pro not 64 bit? Mines 32 bit sys? Just a thought but dont know a lot about anything Wink

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Reply #20 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 8:37pm

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No, I have pro and it's 32bit, and the system listed above that it worked on is very similar to mine in specs.

It's like this is the Russian roulette of addons. Grin

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Reply #21 - Feb 25^th, 2009 at 8:42pm

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True, except you have more chance of working it out with Russian Roulette

There seems to be NO common denominator with this. Could it be a screen resolution thing? Mines 1280x

Just clutching at straws I think. Grin

What about the FSX.cfg tweaks? Could that have a bearing on the display?

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Reply #22 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 4:17am

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This is really strange...
I have a Q6600 with a GeForce 8800 GTX on WinXP32, FSX Acceleration and I don't have any issue...
To me, the problem here looks like a missing texture more than a poly problem...

Got bloom ?
Got mountains ?
Got damage ?

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Reply #23 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 6:23am

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Daube wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 4:17am:

This is really strange...
I have a Q6600 with a GeForce 8800 GTX on WinXP32, FSX Acceleration and I don't have any issue...
To me, the problem here looks like a missing texture more than a poly problem...

I don't think it's a missing texture, because we all downloaded the same two planes, but met with different results.

I'm starting to wonder if it's a video card driver issue. What driver do you have? Two of the above systems listed using different drivers with one working and the other not, and I'm the only system listed here using an ATI card. So maybe that could be it. Undecided

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Reply #24 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 7:45am

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Wow talk about a good response!thanks, but looks like as you said ShaneG this is the russian roullete of add-ons alright and I'v gotten the loaded chamber lol Reading through this and the other thread posted about this problem it seems like a pretty bizzare problem to be sure,my specs aren't that different from anyone else's.exept for the single core procceser(i know,i know,I'm saving for THE gaming rig)and I'm cetainly not as computer savvy as I would like to be so it's definitely has me stumped.
Did you end up hearing back from the original model designer?maybe he/she could shed a little light on it?
Seems a hell of a shame as it looks like a very nice bit of freeware kit.Well back to my Acceleration F-18 which i do love to hell and my new Iris F-14 tomcat(friggin sweet btw!)cheers again for the help anyway guys and here's my specs in case their any help.

Intel extreme 3.4 single core
ATI X1950 w/512 AGP
XP pro
2 gig ram
Runnng at 1680 x 1050

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Reply #25 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 9:46am

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You're right ShaneG, we have tested the same exact plane. Embarrassed

When I look at the screenshots, I can see there is supposed to be some kind a "relfection" on the internal canopy, where the black part is starting on your screenshot, just behind the HUD.

In my FSX however, this part of the canopy is totally transparent. TOTALLY, not even a slight color change, nothing, just as if there was no texture at all... I wonder if there is any link.
I don't remember which drivers I use, I'll check tonight.

EDIT: ShaneG, I have seen yesterday that the canopy reflection was stored in some texture nammed ".....vc4.bmp". What happens if you remove this file from the "texture" folder ?

Got bloom ?
Got mountains ?
Got damage ?

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Reply #26 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 9:53am

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I just went through every texture in this plane, and made them all transparent, then went through and colored every part a different color, and the only thing that did not change each time is that VC texture. Undecided

I am now convinced that this is part of the model that is just interpreted differently by different systems.

There are no textures in any of the texture folders that affect the VC canopy, if there were, I would surely have found it through this method.

On a lighter note, it was really funny flying around in an invisible airplane with a blacked out canopy. Grin

The only way I see this able to be fixed is getting the original source files and adjusting the VC canopy that way. I have sent multiple emails to the KBT website and have never heard anything back.

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Reply #27 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 9:58am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 9:53am:

I just went through every texture in this plane, and made them all transparent, then went through and colored every part a different color, and the only thing that did not change each time is that VC texture. Undecided

I am now convinced that this is part of the model that is just interpreted differently by different systems.

There are no textures in any of the texture folders that affect the VC canopy, if there were, I would surely have found it through this method.

On a lighter note, it was really funny flying around in an invisible airplane with a blacked out canopy. Grin

The only way I see this able to be fixed is getting the original source files and adjusting the VC canopy that way. I have sent multiple emails to the KBT website and have never heard anything back.

Just one thing to check: I have seen that the VC texture was in DXT1 format, and the Alpha channel in DXTBMP was white.
I strongly suppose the Alpha Channel is in fact missing. Prior to modify it, have you triggered the "Create Alpha Channel (black)" function in the menu ? then, when you saved everything, did you try switching to DXT3 instead ?

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Got mountains ?
Got damage ?

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Reply #28 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 10:02am

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Yep, that's how I got the entire plane to be invisible.

I even found a supposed fix at simouthouse, where you replace the canopy texture with one from the Iris F-14 fix, but that didn't work either.

That's what has baffled me for so long, the fact that I can make the entire plane transparent, but not that glass. Undecided

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Reply #29 - Feb 26^th, 2009 at 10:09am

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Sorry to interrupt Gentelmen, But if I can find the Aircraft from Acceleration Alone would be an Ilegal and Not fear ,I paid $100 box on that original disc ,Then problems became due to incompatibilities between FSX spanish version and Acceleration (English ) and I did have to make all kind of trick unti finaly I could find the way to make it work.

YES ,I've heard that all the acceleration aircraft,airplanes can be ilegaly download ,If someone HAS Aceleration Would Need original copy of Aceleration Disc it will install Sp2 and the rst of the things to make the F-18 properly well,if Not will has issues of incompatibility

And BTW
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/daube_image369.jpg

Jezz Shocked

Daube and you claim you still have the same Specs? Man!! Shocked

You're gonna have to teach me to take shots like these Shocked

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