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Jan 29th, 2009 at 3:56pm

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On February 2, 1959, an aircraft carrying Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, and Ritchie Valens took off from the Mason City Airport during a snow storm and crashed 4 miles northwest in a corn field.  I am hearing a lot about it lately, as I work at the Mason City Airport, and live just blocks away from the Surf Ballroom where they played what would be their final concert.
 
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Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:09pm

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I remember seeing the headlines in the paper the following morning. I was a big fan of Buddy Holly & the Crickets & couldn't believe it. Strange how Buddy was more famous here in the UK than in his own country until after his tragic death.

I'm still a big fan of their music & last saw the original Crickets performing in my home town a couple of years ago. Absolutely brilliant!
 

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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:16pm

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That explains the number of Brits that have been coming into here this week.  Buddy Holly was well before my time, but around here it is legend.  Every year they have an annual winter dance like they did then, but this year is the 50th anniversary so its even bigger.  Last night they inducted the Surf Ballroom into the Rock and Roll hall-of-fame, plus rumor has it we can expect some rock celebrities, of the British variety, to make appearances this weeknd
 
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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:36pm

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Indeed. He has a big following in this country including Paul McCartney who purchased the publishing rights to his music some years ago. He is also a personal friend of the Crickets & recorded their last album in his studio. He is quoted as saying that if it wasn't for the Crickets there would have been no Beatles.

Holly had split with the original Crickets (Jerry Allison & Joe B Maudlin) some time before going on that final tour. His new band included Waylon Jennings who gave up his seat on the doomed aircraft to the Big Bopper.
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:42pm

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Hagar wrote on Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:36pm:
Indeed. He has a big following in this country including Paul McCartney who purchased the publishing rights to his music some years ago. He is also a personal friend of the Crickets & recorded their last album in his studio. He is quoted as saying that if it wasn't for the Crickets there would have been no Beatles.

Holly had split with the original Crickets (Jerry Allison & Joe B Maudlin) some time before going on that final tour. His new band included Waylon Jennings who gave up his seat on the doomed aircraft to the Big Bopper.


One of the possible appearances for this years winter dance.  Another rumor going around is that Jerry Dwyer, who owned the FBO and the aircraft that they chartered, is supposed to be writing a book about that night.  He has always had his own idea of what happened on that flight, legend has it that he still has the aircraft.  I know Jerry personally and have never seen the aircraft, but I do know he doesn't get rid of anything, including many aircraft on our airport that are permanent residents of our ramp.
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:56pm

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DaveSims wrote on Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:42pm:
Hagar wrote on Jan 29th, 2009 at 4:36pm:
Indeed. He has a big following in this country including Paul McCartney who purchased the publishing rights to his music some years ago. He is also a personal friend of the Crickets & recorded their last album in his studio. He is quoted as saying that if it wasn't for the Crickets there would have been no Beatles.

Holly had split with the original Crickets (Jerry Allison & Joe B Maudlin) some time before going on that final tour. His new band included Waylon Jennings who gave up his seat on the doomed aircraft to the Big Bopper.


One of the possible appearances for this years winter dance.

Wouldn't surprise me if McCartney turns up. Be nice if Jerry Allison & Joe B can also attend. There was a lot of bad feeling when they were unceremoniously sacked all those years ago.

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Another rumor going around is that Jerry Dwyer, who owned the FBO and the aircraft that they chartered, is supposed to be writing a book about that night.  He has always had his own idea of what happened on that flight, legend has it that he still has the aircraft.  I know Jerry personally and have never seen the aircraft, but I do know he doesn't get rid of anything, including many aircraft on our airport that are permanent residents of our ramp.

Very interesting. I've seen Jerry Dwyer's name mentioned in reports on the crash. From the photos I've seen there wasn't a lot left of the aircraft. I would be surprised if he's still got it.
 

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Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 11:12pm

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American Pie

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"American Pie" is a folk rock song by singer-songwriter Don McLean ...

The song is an abstract story of his life that starts with the deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J. P. Richardson (The Big Bopper) in a plane crash in 1959, and ends in 1970; in the song he called the plane crash "the day the music died ..."

Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock ’n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that you’re in love with him
`cause I saw you dancin’ in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues.

I was a lonely teenage broncin’ buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.
 
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Reply #7 - Jan 30th, 2009 at 3:42pm

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WebbPA wrote on Jan 29th, 2009 at 11:12pm:
American Pie

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"American Pie" is a folk rock song by singer-songwriter Don McLean ...

The song is an abstract story of his life that starts with the deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J. P. Richardson (The Big Bopper) in a plane crash in 1959, and ends in 1970; in the song he called the plane crash "the day the music died ..."

Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock ’n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that you’re in love with him
`cause I saw you dancin’ in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues.

I was a lonely teenage broncin’ buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.

You know, I never did figure out what that song was all about. I'm none the wiser after all these years. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #8 - Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:09pm

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Well The Crickets have landed so far.  This weekend sounds like it will be a mad rush at the airport.
 
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Reply #9 - Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:14pm

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DaveSims wrote on Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:09pm:
Well The Crickets have landed so far.  This weekend sounds like it will be a mad rush at the airport.

Excellent! Any chance of photos?
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:28pm

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Sorry, don't have my camera at work today.  I didnt' know who they were until we asked the pilots after they left.  Maybe Monday/Tuesday when everyone is leaving.
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:55am

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Very sad. All three of them were such beloved icons, and so young and full of promise!!  Cry

A link to the CAB (now FAA) report:

http://www.buddyhollymemorabilia.com/bh/aircraft-investigation-report.html

There have been all sorts of strange theories about this tragedy (including something about a gun going off in the plane at some point), but it looks to me like a classic case of a pilot biting off more than he could chew. An interesting factor was his unfamiliarity with the newfangled (and kinda weird) Sperry gyro horizon... on top of the other serious flaws in his plan.

I also wonder if the plane was carrying some frost or even ice before takeoff... he probably never made it into the forecast icing conditions, but it was a nasty night.
 

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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 4:34am

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beaky wrote on Feb 2nd, 2009 at 2:55am:
There have been all sorts of strange theories about this tragedy (including something about a gun going off in the plane at some point), but it looks to me like a classic case of a pilot biting off more than he could chew.

Odd how when someone famous is killed or disappears there's never a simple explanation as with us ordinary folk. The media love these conspiracy theories & the wilder they are the better. What possible reason would anyone in that aircraft have for waving a gun around so soon after take-off?  Perhaps they found a gun in the wreckage. So what? Is not carrying handguns perfectly legal in the US? I don't know about the others but Buddy Holly was from Texas where I believe carrying a gun would be second nature & not even worth mentioning. If this had happened in the UK it might be different.

There was a very interesting tribute on BBC Radio 2 the other night. Lots of memories from family & friends who were there at the time. You can listen to it online from the Crying, Waiting, Hoping link here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/listen/
 

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Reply #13 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 8:47am

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Around here the crash has been attributed to an inexperience ,NON INSTRUMENT RATED pilot flying into limited visibility at night.  He was also unfamilar with the Sperry type artificial horizon, which reads reverse of what other horizon indicators show.
 
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Reply #14 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 12:57pm

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DaveSims wrote on Feb 2nd, 2009 at 8:47am:
Around here the crash has been attributed to an inexperience ,NON INSTRUMENT RATED pilot flying into limited visibility at night.  He was also unfamilar with the Sperry type artificial horizon, which reads reverse of what other horizon indicators show.


No, the new AOPA magazine goes into this crash in detail, and says that the pilot was IFR and commercial, had over 700 hours TT and almost 200 hours in type (a Bonanza V35). But you're right about the Sperry attitude indicator, which is what AOPA attributed as the main cause of the crash.    
 

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Reply #15 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 1:18pm

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The pilot had also failed an instrument flight check some months before the accident. I haven't read the latest AOPA article but all the relevant information can be found in the original CAB Accident Report dated September 15, 1959. Rottydaddy already posted the link if you care to check it out. http://www.buddyhollymemorabilia.com/bh/aircraft-investigation-report.html

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Roger Arthur Peters, 21 years old, was regularly employed by Dwyer Flying Service as a commercial pilot and flight instructor, and had been with them bout one year. He had been flying since October of 1954, and had accumulated 711 flying hours, of which 128 were in Bonanza aircraft. Almost all of the Bonanza time was acquired during charter flights. He had approximately 52 hours of dual instrument training and had passed his instrument written examination. He fail an instrument flight check on March 21, 1958, nine months prior to the accident. His last CAA second-class physical examination was taken March 29, 1958. A hearing deficiency of his right Ear was found and because of this he was given a flight test. A waiver noting this hearing deficiency was issued November 29, 1958. According to his associates, he was a young married man who built his life around flying. When his instrument training was taken, several aircraft were used and these were all equipped with the conventional type artificial horizon and none with the Sperry Attitude Gyro such as was installed in Bonanza N 3794N. These two instruments differ greatly in their pictorial display.


Nobody can ever know what actually caused the crash as there were no survivors or witnesses. After reading many articles on this tragedy during the last 50 years the original report still seems to give the most likely explanation. Quote:
Conclusion

At night, with an overcast sky, snow falling, no definite horizon, and a proposed flight over a sparsely settled area with an absence of ground lights, a requirement for control of the aircraft solely by reference to flight instruments can be predicated with virtual certainty.

The Board concludes that pilot Peterson, when a short distance from the airport, was confronted with this situation. Because of fluctuation of the rate instruments caused by gusty winds he would have been forced to concentrate and rely greatly on the attitude gyro, an instrument with which he was not completely familiar. The pitch display of this instrument is the reverse of the instrument he was accustomed to; therefore, he could have become confused and thought that he was making a climbing turn when in reality he was making a descending turn. The fact that the aircraft struck the ground in a steep turn but with the nose lowered only slightly, indicates that some control was being effected at the time. The weather briefing supplied to the pilot was seriously inadequate in that it failed to even mention adverse flying conditions which should have been highlighted.

Probable Cause

The Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was the pilot's unwise decision to embark on a flight which would necessitate flying solely by instruments when he was not properly certificated or qualified to do so. Contributing factors were serious deficiencies in the weather briefing, and the pilot's unfamiliarity with the instrument which determines the attitude of the aircraft.
 

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Reply #16 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 6:52pm

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As good luck would have it, I was able to visit the crash site on 6 February, 50 years and 3 days after the event. Temperatures and conditions were nearly identical as on that morning, but there was far more snow, evident by the 6 to 7-foot-high walls of snow bordering Gull Avenue, the farm road which flanks the east side of the farmfields once owned by Albert and Delbert Juhl respectively, now both owned by Nicholas Farms. On the morning of the event, there were only 4 inches of snow, whereas several times on the 1/3-mile hike to the shrine I sank in 12 to 15 inches of accumulated snow.

Your trek begins at 315th Street and Gull Avenue and works west on foot. At the start, you are greeted by a very large set of black steel Ray-Bans mounted on concrete pillars and you proceed due west to the shrine. Once there, the main attractions you see are a plasma-cut steel guitar silhouette with the artists' names cut into it as well as 3 steel records with the most popular songs of the artists labelled on them. Others have left mementos behind, some era-specific, some generic or more recent.

When you stand there, consider what happened, even try to trace the path of the plane in the sky and to your feet, it is a sombering experience which takes on a very monumental degree of depth, and you suddenly find yourself wondering if you're standing in an inappropriate spot; After all, within mere feet of you once lay the bodies of the artists, as well as that of the young pilot Roger Peterson, also young and very much newlywed. The hardest part to digest is how this one tragedy was borne of several small misjudgments, inconveniences and overconfidences. All of those seemingly minor details led to the event known the world over as "The Day The Music Died". You can read the crash report, the Holly autopsy report, the coroner's on-site report all you want...being there pushes the experience to the nth degree.

On my departure off the field and near my car, a gentleman approached me, seeking my opinion on something: He claimed he had obtained the propeller from the Bonanza as well as all documentation to it, saying he wanted to encase it in a Plexiglas housing with a hole in front to allow people to 'touch history' and sought my opinion as to what I'd feel about it. Intrigued, I asked the gentleman what he knew about the propeller, and he told me that it was complete, and that one blade was slightly bent and one was curled backwards. I asked him how this was so, since the crash report stated the prop blades were broken off at the hub; He refuted my statement saying he knew he had the propeller from the crash. I diffused the topic, wished him luck and went back to my car, took some more video and pictures, then drove away.

In summary, this is an experience I recommend to anyone and everyone wholeheartedly. A definite "Bucket List" item, for sure.
 
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Reply #17 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 8:16pm

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So you made the visit to our otherwise sleepy little town.  Did you pass through the airport, I work there.
 
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