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US AIRWAY AIRBUS A320 CRASH (Read 1612 times)
Reply #15 -
Jan 16
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, 2009 at 11:45am
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Yes, a ex-pilot explained the landing on dutch television, he explained the trouble with a single wing tip hitting the water and the outstanding flying of the pilots, first thing i would try and do is landing with the tail first so the plane eases into the water, although i have no idea what the correct procedure would be.
You land tail first => tail comes off.
Wing tip first => nastiness, as per the Etheopian 767 that was hijack and ran out of fuel.
Nose first => more nastiness.
You need to be as level as possible, and have as much luck on your side as possible.
Having seen water tank tests of a well known British four jet "ditching", you'd have a fair chance in fair seas.
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BTW, the correct term is "ditching", although I have no idea what it has to do with ditches...
Ooooh, there were definately no ditches involved, only a river.
Maybe it was a rivering?
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Reply #16 -
Jan 16
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A highly trained pilot just showed us BBC 6'o'clock news viewers how to land the Just Flight A320 onto lovely FSX default water using 'professional simulation software' ...what a larf
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Mictheslik wrote
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A highly trained pilot just showed us BBC 6'o'clock news viewers how to land the Just Flight A320 onto lovely FSX default water using 'professional simulation software' ...what a larf
Whoops! I thought the 'professional simulation software' was called Just Flight.
Not that I've only just started using FSX or anything.
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Jan 16
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Mic, is probably just to visualize the concept of such a landing for people, not that it actually is a real simulation of how such a thing would go... i hope.
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Jan 16
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pepper_airborne wrote
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Mic, is probably just to visualize the concept of such a landing for people, not that it actually is a real simulation of how such a thing would go... i hope.
It was indeed. The chap flying has a PPL though. I was a bit sceptical when I heard the BBC had gone to JF, but in the end it was edited to give quite a good sequence.
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C wrote
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pepper_airborne wrote
on Jan 16
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Mic, is probably just to visualize the concept of such a landing for people, not that it actually is a real simulation of how such a thing would go... i hope.
It was indeed. The chap flying has a PPL though. I was a bit sceptical when I heard the BBC had gone to JF, but in the end it was edited to give quite a good sequence.
Really? Well, i suppose that would be a specialist to most people, although he will probably get mocked by his buddys on the airfield.
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pepper_airborne wrote
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, 2009 at 3:16pm:
C wrote
on Jan 16
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pepper_airborne wrote
on Jan 16
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, 2009 at 2:31pm:
Mic, is probably just to visualize the concept of such a landing for people, not that it actually is a real simulation of how such a thing would go... i hope.
It was indeed. The chap flying has a PPL though. I was a bit sceptical when I heard the BBC had gone to JF, but in the end it was edited to give quite a good sequence.
Really? Well, i suppose that would be a specialist to most people, although he will probably get mocked by his buddys on the airfield.
To be fair, he was only doing a visual representation for the BBC to use, and certainly not expressing opinions.
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Amazing piloting by the captain. A true pilot.
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Reply #24 -
Jan 17
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, 2009 at 3:51am
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Anyone know what speed you would have to come in at?
Using a 737/A320 configuration (engines on pylons).
I would imagine, that if you come in too fast (excess of 150 knots), the speed of the water would ram the engines off the mounting, and cause severe damage to the wing, breaking up the fuselage.
And if you come in too slow, you have to pitch up higher to maintain a slow descent rate...damaging the tail.
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Jan 17
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I would imagine, that if you come in too fast (excess of 150 knots), the speed of the water would ram the engines off the mounting, and cause severe damage to the wing, breaking up the fuselage.
For the third time of explaining in as many threads
the engines are designed to come off.......now you get the short version..........energy dissipation and if they did not, it would nose over and/or the wings would be ripped off. Full explanation
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Reply #26 -
Jan 17
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, 2009 at 5:50am
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Well, I'm no 737 mechanic. I understand why they would be designed to be removed.
But it seems kinda counter-intuitive, don't you think? I sure would prefer to have my CFMs remain mounted on my plane during forward flight.
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Jan 17
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But it seems kinda counter-intuitive, don't you think? I sure would prefer to have my CFMs remain mounted on my plane during forward flight.
Not really sure that skidding along the ground, skimming across the water can really be considered as flight
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expat wrote
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But it seems kinda counter-intuitive, don't you think? I sure would prefer to have my CFMs remain mounted on my plane during forward flight.
Not really sure that skidding along the ground, skimming across the water can really be considered as flight
Matt
Kinda like those bike systems, when you are pedaling forward it hooks up to the rear wheel and transmits power, and when you are freewheeling or pedaling backwards it disconnects. So that your legs arent ripped off
Someone, please come up with a car analogy
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Jan 17
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pepper_airborne wrote
on Jan 17
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, 2009 at 11:57am:
expat wrote
on Jan 17
th
, 2009 at 8:14am:
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But it seems kinda counter-intuitive, don't you think? I sure would prefer to have my CFMs remain mounted on my plane during forward flight.
Not really sure that skidding along the ground, skimming across the water can really be considered as flight
Matt
Kinda like those bike systems, when you are pedaling forward it hooks up to the rear wheel and transmits power, and when you are freewheeling or pedaling backwards it disconnects. So that your legs aren't ripped off
Someone, please come up with a car analogy
Turning the engine off and coasting down hill.........................sh#t, no breaks, no steering, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Matt
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