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The Best Motherboard for FSX with i7 Nehalem (Read 1240 times)
Dec 28th, 2008 at 6:58pm

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I have in my posession three i7 motherboards and 2 i7 920 chips. The motherboards are as follows:
Asus P6T Deluxe
eVGA X58
Gigabyte UD5

Unfortunately, there are issues with all three card types:
Asus P6T: At overclock speed (192 BCLK), this motherboard will not go into S3 sleep mode in Vista 64. The TurboV software will not allow the BLCK speed to be dropped to a sleepable speed (160 or so) from within Windows.
eVGA X58 : This board will not sleep at overclock speed but will decrease to 165 bus speed via E-Leet software. The problem is that the overclocking in E-Leet is corrupted any time the motherboard comes out of sleep mode.
Gigabyte UD5: This motherboard will S3 sleep at overclock speeds and will also lower to 165 BCLK speed via software. The problem with this motherboard is that the speedstep setup is not keeping 21 multiplier within MSFS X. I see multiplier jumping between 17 and 21 while FSX is working at less-than-optimal performance.

All 3 motherboards overclock both chips to 4GHz. The Asus board runs MSFS X as smooth as can be at 1280x1024 res with an ATI 4850 video card. Getting that same smoothness on the eVGA and Gigabyte boards has been a bit of a challenge so far.

Nehalem users... please share the experiences with your motherboards.
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 28th, 2008 at 7:27pm

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Your information is quite interesting. I'm awaiting for my 940 and an asus p6t to arrie hopefully within the next few hours. I'll let you know how mine goes.
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 28th, 2008 at 9:16pm

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Wingo,
With the exception of the S3 sleep mode issue at overclocked speed, the P6T was one of the easiest to overclock and most stable motherboards I've tried.

Are you overclocking? I used 1.35 volts for vCore, 1.35 volts for qpi, 1.96 for CPU PLL and pretty much left the rest on auto (but looked at memory to be sure it was clocking properly). You should easily get 4Ghz with that chip, but a top-quality cpu cooler is essential.

If you're running at stock BCLK, your S3 sleep mode should work just fine. It works okay up to about 160 or 165 bus speed and then doesn't work above that.

You're going to love the performance in FSX!
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 28th, 2008 at 11:56pm

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When we overclock.. we are never worried about SLEEP


However a later BIOS update may address the issue

My systems are either 'up' 24/7 or turned on/off as needed and I have never used hibernate or sleep on any tower in my life.

Hibernate eats resources and disk space for one thing and there have been a SLEW of 'return from sleep' performance issues with video drivers for years so to use those features is doing nothing but setting me up for possible problems I dont need

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Reply #4 - Dec 29th, 2008 at 1:27am

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We all have different needs with our computers. I buy a machine which is most suitable for MSFS X, because that's my most demanding program I run, and then I use my computer for work the other 98% of the time. Since my computer room is in Hawaii and air conditioned/dehumidifier to protect 3,000 books, heat is as big an issue as electricity, and S3 sleep is an absolute requirement for me, along with fast, overclocked performance for my FSX sessions.

NickN, I'll be watching for sleep-related video driver issues. Too bad EVGA's E-Leet software is adversely affected by S3 sleep, but I bet they fix it in a future BIOS revision. Not holding my breath on the Asus, though.
 
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Reply #5 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 12:43pm

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Papafox

I just purchased and installed Gigabyte UD5 6 days ago and Im experiencing the same rythmic stutter for fsx. Prior to my new build I had Gigabyte EX58-Extreme using the 980X and had absolutely no issues with stuttering, unfortunately the motherboard is RMA,d due to memory controller issues. But I guarantee once its returned back to me, its going back in the comp. I cant figure out why the performance on the ud5 is poor, given that it should run fsx fairly smoothly. Ive tried numerous things to fix it, so far no luck.

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Gigabyte EX58A-UD5 V2.0
Core i7-980X
OCZ 12GB PC312800
GTX 480
800watt PSU
FSX SP2
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Reply #6 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 1:12am

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Hi ENM, I am still using the Gigabyte UD5 board and it's working well now. I see some jumping between multiplier 20 and 21, but the results are excellent at an overclock of 3.95Ghz. I suppose a change in BIOS version may have helped. You might consider such a move if the problem persists.
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 1:54am

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Papafox, Im glad you have it working. One of the things I have done was install bios version FC6 (current beta version,) the board came programed with FB. I really didnt notice any significant change with the stuttering....its not that bad, but very annoying, enough to make me realize how bad I miss flying FSX smoothly.

I have not taken the time to sit down and manually overclock my system, but rather use Gigabytes utility Easy Tune6. I ran FSX at 4.0 GHz and still noticed slight stuttering, but overall the performance was better than stock speed. I feel its safe to say that I want perfection....this board just does not run like the EX58 Extreme Model. I will continue to play with the UD5, and hopefully get it running to my specifications.
 

Gigabyte EX58A-UD5 V2.0
Core i7-980X
OCZ 12GB PC312800
GTX 480
800watt PSU
FSX SP2
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Reply #8 - Dec 31st, 2010 at 11:50am

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For those who are following this thread. I have just installed the latest bios FC and no longer have the beta intalled (FC6). FSX now runs without any stutters, so this is the fix.
 

Gigabyte EX58A-UD5 V2.0
Core i7-980X
OCZ 12GB PC312800
GTX 480
800watt PSU
FSX SP2
Win 7 64-bit
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