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adding more AI liveries? (Read 1707 times)
Dec 10th, 2008 at 6:30pm

jieitai   Offline
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How do I get the AI aircraft to show liveries that I've downloaded, like Japan Air, Philippine Air, etc.?
 

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Reply #1 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 6:37pm

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post this in the adding AI thread
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 6:50pm

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You need to be just a little more specific on the request, Wink
Are you refering to the default AI planes? And the liveries that you have downloaded, are they for AI or your default aircraft?
Or have you downloaded new AI packages and want to change those?

It won't be a problem helping you, we just need a little more info. Smiley
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 6:58pm

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Yes, the default AI planes, like the 747-400 etc. The liveries I have are in my default aircraft folders, but are the AI aircraft in a completely different folder than the flyable aircraft?
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 7:46pm

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No, they use the same. The best way is to replace the default liveries with the repaints so that you don't even have the default ones anymore. The traffic file has aircraft listed by it's" title=" line, so since you have added new paints, and therefore higher numbers that are not in the traffic file, it is not using them. But if you replace the default paintschemes using the new repaints, you will see those liveries everywhere that the default AI planes go to.
I did this same thing with my default aircraft and now I never run into an Orbit or Pacific airlines ever. Wink

« Last Edit: Dec 11th, 2008 at 4:12pm by ShaneG »  
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Reply #5 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 8:17pm

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Can I not edit the traffic file to put the extra [flightsim.xx] numbers in?
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 8:26pm

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You can if you know what to do, I'm just a little on the lazy side Grin
You would also need to add all of the flight plan info for each plane, for everywhere you want them to fly to. Wink Not a huge task if you only want them in a certain area, but certainly a monumental task to have them be everywhere in the world. Shocked
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 8:44pm

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I usually fly around Japan Korea and the Philippines, so it shouldn't be too hard to figure out....I hope.

...and the trafficAircraft.bgl file killed my Notepad....
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 8:59pm

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so you replace [fltsim.0] with [flightsim.xx] or you just put a low value number there?
 

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Reply #9 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 9:01pm

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You will need TTools, available in the simv utilites section. And the airport codes for all the airports you want to have the AI flying to.
Read all the documentation that comes with TTools, it's pretty easy to figure out.

Be aware, that if an airport does not have enough gates & parking to accomodate your new entries, they will not show up. Or will land and then disappear on the taxiway.
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 9:07pm

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lunitic_8 wrote on Dec 10th, 2008 at 8:59pm:
so you replace [fltsim.0] with [flightsim.xx] or you just put a low value number there?


This is part of the flightsim section of my default 747 in FSX, notice there is no default paint schemes remaining, all of my commercial jets are this way, at first it was for the AI purpose, then I just got around to installing all of the PAI packs and I removed the default AI traffic file altogether, much easier on frames to run the addon traffic at higher settings. Wink

[fltsim.0]
title=Boeing 747-400 Singapore Airlines 'Star Alliance'
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=SING2
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=
atc_airline=Singapore
atc_flight_number=1
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="Singapore Airlines - Star Alliance"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"
description="More than 30 years ago, the 747 made its first trip from New York to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class."

[fltsim.1]
title=Boeing 747-400 Lufthansa
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=Luft
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=D-ABVF
atc_airline=Lufthansa
atc_flight_number=3881
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="Lufthansa"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Frank McCall"
description="More than 30 years ago, the 747 made its first trip from New York to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class."

[fltsim.2]
title=Boeing 747-400 Air France
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=afr
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=F-PERO
atc_airline=Air France
atc_flight_number=
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="Air France"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"
description="More than 30 years ago, the 747 made its first trip from New York to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class.

[fltsim.3]
title=Boeing 747-400 Delta Airlines
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=delta airlines
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=
atc_airline=Delta Airlines
atc_flight_number=
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="Delta Airlines"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"
description="More than 30 years ago, the 747 made its first trip from New York to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class."

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Reply #11 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 9:14pm

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I think I'll just go with replacing the originals Tongue

Except I'm having to make my own repaints on some, since no one makes any Japan Air repaints for the 737, and no Korean Air repaints for either the 747 or 737.  Angry
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 11th, 2008 at 12:27am

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I tried reworking the aircraft.cfg file, replacing the 3 main airlines with add-on textures, but the only aircraft that would appear were all Airbuses and CRJ700s. I'd like to edit the traffic file and get rid of all AI aircraft except the 737 and 747, but SimV isn't letting me download TTools.
 

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Reply #13 - Dec 11th, 2008 at 8:22am

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Hey,
As another method of getting ai, have you tried world of AI or project ai, i notice that WOAI has both japan air (both cargo and passenger) and korean air packages available for download, along with some other airlines from that area. then its just a case of downloading the package, installing it using the WOAI installer, and away you go with a populated sky Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 11th, 2008 at 9:21am

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but SimV isn't letting me download TTools.
Hopefully you'll get it downloaded. The help document (Readme.htm) is necessary when editing traffic files.  If you can't get it from SimV, it's available at other sites. Note: TTools cannot compile/decompile FSX formatted traffic files but those utilities that can will decompile into the TTools formatted .txt source files for editing.

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but the only aircraft that would appear were all Airbuses and CRJ700s.
My guess is the error is in the 'title=' line of the [fltsim.x] sections. The traffic file looks for 'title=' line to catalog the ai aircraft, not the [fltsim.x] number as stated earlier. The TTools help file has a section explaining the 'title=' line and how to substitute for the default aircraft. 

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I'd like to edit the traffic file and get rid of all AI aircraft except the 737 and 747
It would  be easier to go here http://www.flightsim2004-fanatics.com/uploads/DefaultGA/Def_GA_DL.htm-and downoad the 'fsx default airlines' package. It breaks down the default traffic file into individual aircraft. Traffic.bgl files and TTools .txt source files are included for each aircraft.

FSX traffic file compiler/decompiler utilities:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4746&highlight=AIFPC&page=3-AIFPC-download link in message #57-Compiles/decompiles to/from TTools .txt source files and FS9 or FSX formatted traffic*.bgl files.

http://members.shaw.ca/aifp/-AI Flight Planner-a full function ai flight plan creator/editor for FS2004 and FSX traffic files. Has other nice features including listing of airports + arrival/departure times for any flight plan.

Always back up any default file(s) before editing.

Dave





 

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