What's happening, is that AI aircraft are showing up in you aircraft seliction list. You don't want to delete anything, but if you'd like, you can use a tool called "Aired" to make it so those AI models are not on that list. (There is usually a way to add a panel or other parts to those models to make them flyable, but I can't help you there.)

Download AirEd and use it to open the .air file of one of the offending AI aircraft models.

Look for entry number 105 (105 Aircraft Type=) and change the type number from "2" to "0", and save it. The next time you start your sim, that AI model should no longer be on the list.

Hope this helps.

...mmm......that looks like someone has it wrong...Gb says change from 2 to 0, and Hagar says from 0 to 2..........

Think maybe Hagar has it right.....commoner

If the aircraft shows on the select an aircraft screen then it will have it's own folder for that a/c in the main aircrafts folder.....open that folder and look for the  Aircraft name.air file...open that in AirEd and make the change that Hagar suggested.....it will then vanish from the selection list but will still fly the world as AI traffic....

     

commoner wrote on Dec 10^th, 2008 at 12:12pm:


I knew it was one or the other. I'm sorry, it's been a while since I used it myself.

Seems I have a system problem. I couldn't open the AIR file in Aired. I got an error message telling me that the AIR file is damaged. So, until I get that fixed, I'll live with the inconvenience. Thanks to all for your suggestions and help.

JJH wrote on Dec 12^th, 2008 at 11:57am:

 
...mmm....yes if Hagar is right then we have discussed this before...(brown paper parcels etc )

I find the best way is to open AirEd and under the Special tab select "Set AirEd for air files"...that way all your .air files will have a sweet little AirEd icon and double clicking them will open the file in AirEd........

.....to make the change..click on the Aircraft Type this will open it to make the change...change the 0 to a 2 and to complete the change you must press ENTER..(important) Then close AirEd and click "YES" to finish..do this for each aircraft you want to take from the select screen.

...........commoner

JimmyJohnHenry has reached the end of his string. Nothing seems to work. I have downloaded AirEd and it presently resides in my Downloads folder on my desktop. Should I place it somewhere else? When I open it and get to and click the "Special" tab, and then select "Set AirEd for Air files", nothing seems to happen. What's my next step besides fagedaboutit?? 

ive never used aired before or even had it installed but i was curious about this problem so i downloaded it.

All of my .air files were previously just blank as they had no programme assigned to them so when i went to open them i simply right clicked one of them, went to open/open with>select programme from list>browse> then browsed to where i had dowloaded air ed to, ticked the box that said use this programme for all .air files and hey presto, all my .air files work through air ed.

Unfortunately tho, my .air files were never little brown parcels so all this could be completely useless but worth a try none the less if you havent allready.

good luck

Hagar wrote on Dec 10^th, 2008 at 11:04am:



To remove an AI aircraft from the main menu all you have to
do is remove the 'panel' folder.

No panel folder, no menu entry....

     Paul

JJH wrote on Dec 15^th, 2008 at 12:07pm:

AirEd is a standalone application. It will work from any location on your PC. Just extract the zipfile & use it from there. You don't have to install anything.

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True for FSX.....not true for FS2004.

Reading thru JimmyJohn's other posts...looks like he's using FS2004.

Dave

JJH wrote on Dec 15^th, 2008 at 1:04pm:

I would simply uninstall it like me.* I have no idea what it's for & I doubt very much that I will ever need it. However, leaving it shouldn't affect anything. You will still be able to edit AIR files with AirEd.

*PS. You can always reinstall it if you find you need it.

JJH wrote on Dec 15^th, 2008 at 3:58pm:

I get the feeling you might be wasting your time. You could at least try opening those AIR files in AirEd as we've tried to explain to you.

I'll go through it once more. Download AirEd here ---> http://www.simviation.com/fsutilities_gen2.htm

The file is named aired.zip. Extract aired.zip to anywhere you like on your PC. It will work from any location including your Desktop. Open the extracted folder & run the utility by double-clicking AirEd.exe. Then click File/Open & navigate to the AIR file you wish to open in the usual way.

You could also try commoner's tip & click Special. Then select the "Set AirEd for AIR files" option.

hmm... thats unusual, you say you are able to edit them and yet they are still showing as little brown parcels which sounds to me like they are not affilliated to aired but rather still to adobe installer.
When you open the files to edit, is it aired that opens them up?

JJH wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 9:42am:

When you changed the Aircraft Type from 0 to 2 did you press the Enter key to register the change before saving the file? I suspect not doing this is the cause of your problem.

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Adobe chose the AIR file extension for their new utility possibly without realising it was already in use by MSFS. Adobe AIR automatically associates itself with all files with the .air extension when you install it. This changes the .air file icons to that little brown package & the file type to Installer Package.* This does not prevent them being opened or used by other software like AirEd & FS itself.

*Unlike most other software there is no option not to do it so the only way to change it back is to uninstall Adobe AIR.

OK. That should do it.

It took a while but we got there in the end.

lol...as with all  medication and Tweaks for FS9....."Please read the instructions"....

...I did say in my second post that ENTER was important............ne'er mind all's well that end's well as they say.....

....commoner.......