Simviation Forum - bye to two of my favourate tracks

Oct 15^th, 2008 at 4:18pm

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Well it appears there will be no Magny cours next year, which despite being a crap race, is a great track.
And good bye Montreal which is without a doubt a top 3 track in my opinion.

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Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 4:47pm

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The Bernie and Max show, between them, they are not so slowly removing the heart liver and lungs out of this sport Cry

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Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm

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Well the only plus side is, even Ferrari and toyota seem to be against the single engine idea, and since they were a large reason the break away series never happend, I think Max and Bernie might be pushing it now if they try it. I could see a new series being formed with all the major players leaving F1 when these rules come into effect.
Even better, we'd see tracks like these two return, Silverstone, Imola, a USGP, no stupid engine rules or tyre rules.
God I hope they see sense this time.

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Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:01pm

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Craig. wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 4:18pm:

Well it appears there will be no Magny cours next year, which despite being a crap race, is a great track.
And good bye Montreal which is without a doubt a top 3 track in my opinion.

To me, those are two tracks that ARE Formula 1. Without them F1 is diminished somewhat.
Seriously, is the France family now a silent partner in F1?

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Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:24pm

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Craig. wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm:

Well the only plus side is, even Ferrari and toyota seem to be against the single engine idea, and since they were a large reason the break away series never happend, I think Max and Bernie might be pushing it now if they try it. I could see a new series being formed with all the major players leaving F1 when these rules come into effect.
Even better, we'd see tracks like these two return, Silverstone, Imola, a USGP, no stupid engine rules or tyre rules.
God I hope they see sense this time.

Ok Tony George just chill out Grin

The argument against new formula series is in Indianapolis with ugly, slow cars and pay-in drivers. Not to say that the IRL can't put on a show, but whos watching anymore 13 years later?

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Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:55pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:24pm:

Craig. wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm:

Well the only plus side is, even Ferrari and toyota seem to be against the single engine idea, and since they were a large reason the break away series never happend, I think Max and Bernie might be pushing it now if they try it. I could see a new series being formed with all the major players leaving F1 when these rules come into effect.
Even better, we'd see tracks like these two return, Silverstone, Imola, a USGP, no stupid engine rules or tyre rules.
God I hope they see sense this time.

Ok Tony George just chill out Grin

The argument against new formula series is in Indianapolis with ugly, slow cars and pay-in drivers. Not to say that the IRL can't put on a show, but whos watching anymore 13 years later?

Ah but in this case you'll have all the major manufacturers with many years of experience breaking away willing to spend money to take them back to where they were years ago. Max and Bernie like to say they are in a financial crisis. Well thats a load of rubbish, reality is they just dont want to give up a higher percentage of their fee's to the teams.
If a higher percentage did go out, there would be absolutly no need to cut costs. They say the major manufacturers are losing money through lower sales of their road cars. Ferrari recently reported something like a 12% increase in sales for the year up to last month, BMW and Mercedes have both said they are still selling cars well, and I can bet you Toyota and Honda are making a killing on their smaller fuel saving cars, and hybrid models all of which have suddenly jumped in price and yet are also selling more.
And can you see any of the major teams producing the type of crap the indycar series came up with? First of all you'd be looking at the return of the v10's maybe v12's. Slick tyres, and also the inclusion of the suggestions of the technical working group which is made of the the teams anyway. Drivers again, you'd see the same as we have now. I dont think any are bound to Bernie, so no reason why they'd not go too. The biggest problem, I believe several tracks are contractually bound, especially the newer ones, to Bernie. But I might be wrong.

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Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:39pm

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I think they are panicking about the future as they are entitled to. Many are predicting a full blown recession, as I learned last week when a potential employer told me that me working there depends on the economy.

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