I tried to purchase the md11. Get all the way paid, and it says I purchased the 747! I kow for a fact it said md11 all the way up until that point. So now im out 83 dollars because those di**sh**s cant get there downloads right. Im a little pissed off right now.......

Im contacting them as we speak but I have a feeling all I get is a "no refunds" reply.

NitroPower wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:31pm:




Just thought I'd enlarge what seemed very tiny there, I thought it was rather strange.

I'd contact PMDG and ask if you can get them switched, if you haven't already downloaded the 747.

I for one think PMDG is another class of simming, called "Fozzer's enemies", cause it's all complex tubeliners.

PMDG will understand. Customer support is one of their strongest points.

Damn bastards eh? I hate how companies charge more for 1 plane then for the whole game itself. Blooooooooody stupid.

AussyPilot, NitroPower, I suggest you two take a deep breath, and try and approach this from a MATURE point of view.

AussyPilot, it is THEIR product, THEY can charge whatever THEY want for THEIR HARD WORK. Do you know how hard it is to code all those systems in C++? Do you know how long the thing has been in development for? So you think they should charge, $39.95 AUD, and not make a single cent profit?

A flight simulator (real one, used to train airline pilots) can cost well over $30,000 US. You can fly PMDG's 747 or MD-11 for just $115 AUD.

NitroPower - really, stop coming in here and parading to everyone "oh, just pirate it, get back at them for charging $89 US for a plane."

I would just like to add:

There is nothing, and I really mean nothing that I hate more then pirates. Pirates despise me, they make us pay more, they make us suffer with DRM's and online activations and all that just because they are to shallow in their minds to realize work requires reward and in this case payment for created products.

Saying one pirate things to get back @ companies? WOW...why is who ever said this not banned?

We don't need cowards here do we? I know there are some great people here at SimV but things like this get under my skin.

Lets not allow scum (pirates are just that) on here.

As for the problem, your topic is immature. That kind of attitude won't get any problem solved.



PS: Nitro 

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Proud owner of 101 ORIGINAL games & programs (in their respective boxes and 0 pirated.

Wow... Nitropower, AussyPilot, shame on you.

And people wonder why so many people are no longer developing for flight simulator.

AussyPilot: The internet, and specifically Flightsim addons, is a free market, PMDG can charge whatever they want want for their products. Don't like it, tough.

Nitropower: You know better than that.

ThatOnePerson, get an AvSim account and post on their customer forum before resolving to boycott them. Cover all the bases, never give up or give in.

Best leave this topic here now, things are getting a bit hostile (and not without reason).

A nerve touched...

Jet.

AussiePilot wrote on Oct 19^th, 2008 at 12:08am:





Hi, well, I think I'm the youngest on the forum.

Also, you want to talk about expensive? I dare you to go to Iceland right now, their currency is worthless, so please feel for them before you go around giving a hissy fit about prices.

Lastly, Nitro,

Hey, when did I ever say they should give it away for free? Anyways, the developers of Flight Simulator spent alot of time to bring us a great game that allows you to at least get the chance to practice aviation in your own home. Your lucky the price of the game isn't skyrocketing.

Anyway, why is alexander talking about Iceland. I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA. I BUY WITH AUSTRALIAN MONEY. Our dollar is going way down now anyway.

Oh, and by the way, I'm 13. Still youngest.

AussiePilot wrote on Oct 19^th, 2008 at 8:23am:



I'm talking about Iceland because THEY deserve sympathy, since you're whining about 83$ (100 AUD I would believe), yet for them it would be 10,000$ right now.


Oh, and by the way, I'm also 13.

Wait a bit for PMDG to get back to you, they will.  I was charged twice when I bought the 747 and it took 2 weeks but it was corrected.  PMDG planes are so far ahead of anything out there, they should be double what they are charging.  You will not find planes closer to a real simulation than PMDG.  Think about it this way, if you use it once a week for the next 2 years it works out to be less than a dollar per flight.  Each flight is different too.  Its worth every penny!  Todd

Ok...hopefully everyone can relax a little bit. This is obviously a controversial issue, but I'm sure the last thing we need is for people to start getting even more snippy with each other. We just need to have a civil conversation about the issues at hand. Age should not even be an issue here. I have seen plenty of young people with A LOT more maturity than many older folks in my experiences, and of course you can have the opposite situation as well. Everyone's input is valuable, as long as it is constructive to the discussion.
So...drop the age comparisons, they mean (or should mean) nothing.

AussyPilot, I understand that you're frustrated with your purchase circumstance. I would be too if I was charged for the wrong thing, and I believe that you have every right in the world to ask about their pricing policies. I don't think your a pirate, or have any intention of coming across as one. The main issue I think people have here is the attitude that you originally came across with, which I think was purely out of frustration. While I can't speak for everyone here, I'll just say that I don't think people are trying to accuse you of anything negative.

I think this note goes for everybody, me included: Mind your attitude.
It's quite simple, but it's something that EVERYONE can slip up on from time to time.

I am interested in continuing the discussion of payware pricing policies, as long as it remains civil. I personally find this to be a very interesting topic, and hopefully those with more experience in economics can continue to chime in with their reasoning as to why prices are the way they are.
I am also very interested to hear a response from Nitropower in regard to his actions, which in turn will probably lead to a discussion on copyright infringement, which I believe would also be beneficial for many to witness, as long as the discussion remains respectful to others...unless someone acts blatantly stupid, again.

I don't have a background in economics, so I shouldn't really chime in a lot with my theories on PMDG's pricing beliefs, and I definitely cannot speak for them, but I hope to continue to contribute to this important discussion with the knowledge that I do have.


Thank you,
-Sean

Ok, thanks.

All I was doing at the beginning was saying that I just think its silly to pay that much. All I'm trying to say is That I won't buy them. You can go buy them. Go ahead. Spend all your money. All I'm saying is that I won't.

Oh and your right, why the hell are we fighting about our ages. I feel stupid for bringing it up.

Ok, when I said "spend all your money", I didn't mean you have no money or you spennd too much money on addons, it was sort of a metaphor, in a way, I think. . I wasn't ever trying to annoy anyone even if I did, so I'm sorry. I just think you guys over-reacted to a post that wasn't meant to be that serious. If I bugged anyone I'm sorry.

krigl wrote on Oct 20^th, 2008 at 5:00am:


I think thats a good idea.