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Oct 11th, 2008 at 10:15am

Alrot   Ex Member
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recently I buy a better videocard and a PCI motherboard ,My FSX performance has change dramaticly to a better frames etc,

I being thinking ,I've read that VISTA improves FSX and this card is DX10  Smiley
Undecided,But what about the other stuff ?My Main stuff,.. will I have trouble with 3d studio max 7 , Gmax , paint, Shop Pro ,Photoshop 7 ,corel draw 13 , etc, etc etc etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc,etc, etc etc, and couple thousands programs or softwares more?

Thanks for yourt advises ahead..

Alejandro

 
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Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2008 at 10:18am

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You'll have to re-install it all, but most things are compatible with vista one way or another.

Vista DX10 is broken for FSX right now, though.
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2008 at 10:32am

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I would tell the average person not to move to Vista, until they have no choice.

Knowing that future DX10 support will NOT be available for XP would be a good reason for running Vista, if you were building a computer today.

Or.. if you plan on using 4MB of RAM, you'll need a 64-bit operating system.. and if you're goint to go through the 64-bit driver hassle, it might as well be Vista 64-bit.

I've been running Vista 64-bit for nearly a year now, and the compatability issues for major software titles have been minor.

Knowing that you are pretty savy with computers.. I'd say yes.. get Vista (make sure it's 64-bit).
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 11th, 2008 at 12:01pm

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What Brett said.

I have Vista Home Premium, 32 bit, and haven't had any problems to speak of that wasn't due to me being unfamiliar with the feature in question (and it did not take long to figure out) and my ancient printer was not supported.

I'm planning on getting another computer after Tax Refund Day, and plan on going for a Vista 64 bit OS.  I plan on using it as the "development" computer (though Im not going to wait that long to start 'developing'.)
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 12th, 2008 at 6:47am

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Alrot... if you plan on installing vista and can't get your gmax to work just let me know.  There are a few things you need to do to get it working under vista.  I have vista home premium 32 bit and all is good here too. I will post my gmax/vista fix below in case you want to copy/paste these instructions to wordpad.  Yes.  DX10 mode does perform much smoother with FSX on vista.

Not to go against you there brett buddy.. I think he'd be better of with the 32 bit version of vista. The majority of his programs (GMAX being one 32 bit program) and device drivers will work much more stable with 32 bit and has better support.  He can use up to 4GB max with the 32bit version but probably no more.  If he gets the 64 bit version he can go much higher than 4 GB ram given his motherboard/processor is designed for it.   But won't run GMAX with the 64 bit version of vista Sad


GMAX/Vista 32 bit fix:

One solution to working around fixing that issue is to use software mode for the rendering... it works great for me at least until gmax comes out with a patch for users to install in the future.  

Open up GMAX and then go to Customize -> Preferences ->  Viewports -> Choose Driver and select HEIDI and select Software Z Buffer then click on OK and the OK again.  Once you have done that you will want to restart the program for the settings to take effect.  And as for your other programs.... they should work normally by default since it is a 32 bit operating system.  If not I can show you how to have them run as XP programs under vista.  

Compatibility Tab:
Changing Compatibility Settings Manually
To change compatibility settings manually for a program:

1) Right-click the program's icon.
2) Click Properties.
3) Click the Compatibility tab.

Setting: Compatibility mode
Runs the program using settings from a previous version of Windows. Try this setting if you know the program is designed for (or worked in) a specific previous version of Windows.

Setting: Run in 256 colors
Uses a limited set of colors in the program. Some older programs are designed to use fewer colors.

Setting: Run in 640 × 480
Runs the program in a smaller-sized window. Try this setting if the graphical user interface appears jagged or is rendered improperly.

Hope this helps. Smiley Victor
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Reply #5 - Oct 12th, 2008 at 9:02am

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All I can say to that last post.







Wow....................................64.




He can run it under 64bit using Wow64, which emulates 32 bit apps, plus, 64 bit has bettor memory addressing, and if he's doing a very complex model that could be to his great advantage (look at the sandbox editor for Crysis).
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 12th, 2008 at 9:12am

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Not to go against you there brett buddy.. I think he'd be better of with the 32 bit version of vista. The majority of his programs (GMAX being one 32 bit program) and device drivers will work much more stable with 32 bit and has better support.  He can use up to 4GB max with the 32bit version but probably no more.  If he gets the 64 bit version he can go much higher than 4 GB ram given his motherboard/processor is designed for it.   But won't run GMAX with the 64 bit version of vista


Nah   Smiley   The 64-bit driver hassles were minimal.. And they're all but eliminated now. I went with 64-bit, mainly for the RAM recognition.  You cannot use more than 3GB (and some change) with the 32-bit OS's (according to NickN) so it seemed silly to buy a 32-bit OS. I can't imagine ever running less than 4GB in the future.

Now, granted.. Gmax (and most of my applications) are of the 32-bit variety.. but 64-bit CPUs have been the standard for several years now. The way I understand it.. when you have a 64-bit CPU, and a 64-bit OS.. data can be handled in chunks twice the size of a 32-bit OS. Even if a specific application is not coded to take advantage of that.. the OS is.. so much of  the OS-dependent background stuff is handled more efficiently..  And I've been told that even 32-bit aps enjoy a little efficiency with the 64-bit headroom .. most certainly the extra RAM at hand helps keep the app from going to the HDD for swapping.

Like I've said before..  I wouldn't advise people to run out and switch..  BUT.. if you're buying an OS today.. it's best to go 64-bit..  Smiley



edit:  Gmax.. PSP.. and every other app I use for design ran on Vista 64  ..  right out of the box.
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 12th, 2008 at 11:27am

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Your right there brett Smiley  I was thinking about if one ran a 32 bit OS with a 64 bit processor issue.  But here is the limit page for vista right here.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa366778.aspx
 
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