Simviation Forum - F1 GP Japan: Your predictions

Oct 5^th, 2008 at 2:16pm

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Fuji Speedway.. one of my favourite tracks on GT5 Prologue Tongue

and home to the longest straight on the F1 calendar (I believe).

Last year Lewis was the rain master in a Monsoon, more of the same? Can Ferrari get the 1-2 they need to keep Felipe in contention?

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Reply #1 - Oct 5^th, 2008 at 2:17pm

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1: Massa
2: Raikkonen
3: Hamilton

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Reply #2 - Oct 5^th, 2008 at 2:26pm

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Reply #3 - Oct 5^th, 2008 at 6:38pm

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Fuji Speedway.. one of my favourite tracks on GT5 Prologue Tongue

and home to the longest straight on the F1 calendar (I believe).

Last year Lewis was the rain master in a Monsoon, more of the same? Can Ferrari get the 1-2 they need to keep Felipe in contention?

ENTRIES CLOSE AT 0500BST SATURDAY

Favorite? I hope you mean the origional, not the mutilated 200ft width version?

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Reply #4 - Oct 5^th, 2008 at 7:00pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 5^th, 2008 at 6:38pm:

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Fuji Speedway.. one of my favourite tracks on GT5 Prologue Tongue

and home to the longest straight on the F1 calendar (I believe).

Last year Lewis was the rain master in a Monsoon, more of the same? Can Ferrari get the 1-2 they need to keep Felipe in contention?

ENTRIES CLOSE AT 0500BST SATURDAY

Favorite? I hope you mean the origional, not the mutilated 200ft width version?

Not a fan of either incarnation.
Give us suzuka any day of the week and I'd be happy. Sadly money talks as always.

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Reply #5 - Oct 5^th, 2008 at 7:28pm

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I dont have GT5 prologue but i did enjoy the many variations on the track in GT4. Its an odd track, you think youve gone as fast as you can but by varying your line in the last few corners the time you can find is frankly astounding Huh

Suzuka i love also - a huge challenge in GT4 - the first corner especially, and degner 1 and 2 are always satisfying when you get them right.

Unsure which way to go for predictions - its a tricky one this! Any ideas on the weather? I read somewhere its defo wet, next its defo dry...ho hum guess waiting till nearer race day will be more accurate Grin

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Reply #6 - Oct 5^th, 2008 at 7:41pm

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right now its scattered showers saturday, dry friday and dry sunday. I'd be inclined to say it's going to be dry, as there are more dry days around the weekend than wet.

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Massa
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Reply #7 - Oct 7^th, 2008 at 6:33am

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If it rains, Lewis, if it's dry, Massa. Can Kimi even finish a race? I've got to pick on so:
Massa
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Reply #8 - Oct 8^th, 2008 at 6:11pm

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Massa
Lewis
Kimi

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Reply #9 - Oct 9^th, 2008 at 2:12pm

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Massa
Kubica
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Reply #10 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 4:31am

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Reply #11 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 5:08am

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I dont know if its the cars, the tyres or the track, but once again drivers have been saying the track has not been rubbering in at all. Saying the best times are at the begining of the session. That could be both interesting and important when it comes to qualy.

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Reply #12 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 5:25am

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Play it safe i think - i thought of popping Alonso in there Shocked

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Reply #13 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 7:42am

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Reply #14 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 1:55pm

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Reply #15 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 1:03am

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And so the silliness begins anew. Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 3:57am

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todayshorse wrote on Oct 10^th, 2008 at 5:25am:

Hamilton
Massa
Kimi

Play it safe i think - i thought of popping Alonso in there Shocked

Bugger

Hamilton messed up, and Massa should of capitilised on that, but messed up himself. Oh dear Roll Eyes

Not much else to say really, but Hamilton got of lucky today, he could have been 2 or 3 points behind, let alone 6 in front still

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Reply #17 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 4:05am

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........and now Bourdais gets a 25 second penalty, Massa promoted to 7th.

I guess you cant even be on the track now when theres a Ferrari within 1000 yards without getting some sort of penalty. Massa WDC then i guess at this rate!

What a joke! Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:42am

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Lewis cracks under presure again, so much for being better prepaired.

Only just seen the Bourdais penalty. Load of bollocks. It was a racing incident, It doesn't matter what cars involved the stewards are showing racing and a bit of banging wheels isn't allowed.

What annoyed me was that cock Allen again, oh if ferrari dont get massa a point he cant win with 1-2 finishes, when he could have. 8 points up for grabs that way, 7 behind. That idiot was on prime form today, guess because of the poor showing from his lover boy.

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Reply #19 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:56am

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Craig. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:42am:

Lewis cracks under presure again, so much for being better prepaired.

Lewis was his own worst enemy today, A bad start then a banzai move into the first corner that wouldn't have looked out of place on the last corner of the last lap...with the championship at stake.

He should have just sat behind and waited for a clearer overtaking opportunity. Alonso deserved the win, getting back to his old self..

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Reply #20 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 7:48am

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Craig. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:42am:

Lewis cracks under presure again, so much for being better prepaired.

Alonso deserved the win, getting back to his old self..

This is whats scary as far as the final few races are concerned. Yes Singapore was lucky for him, and todays race, he was helped by Lewis taking, Kimi Massa and Heikki for a day trip to the runoff of turn one, but thats racing, and looking at his lap times he was always up there with the Ferrari's and Mclarens for lap times, and more important he was consistant. 4 to 5 laps several times with times all the same is what won the race. If he decides to throw another quali short fill to get up front he'll cause headaches for the championship. Maybe not so much in China, but certainly Brazil.
I've said it to people at work, the title will almost certainly be decided next week.
Then again I think the titles already been decided in many peoples minds.

Throwing a spanner in the works though. Kubica is not to be counted out. Another race like todays and he goes into Brazil with a big chance. And the way Ferrari and Mclaren seem to be fighting to be the team who throws it away first, BMW could be the big benefactor.

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Reply #21 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 10:55am

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Well that was eventful (Just watched it).

Lewis and Massa both deserved their penalties in my opinion, but Bourdais?!? What a load of sh*t that is. He had the racing line, it was in no way his fault as far as I could see. I thought racing was supposed to be exciting, but the Stewards are just taking away everything that was once exciting with stupid and inappropriate penalties. Angry

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Reply #22 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 12:15pm

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lmao, watching the replay. James Allen.
" the differance was the pit stop, and ferrari using the lollipop a system they are unfamilliar with after years of using the light system" Grin

Love it. Apparently 1 and three qtrs of a season is years, and the lollipop was responsible for the fuel hose taking a couple of extra tenths to release. I will be so glad when he's gone.
It's been a sweet relief not having to deal with Ryder this weekend.

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Reply #23 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 1:24pm

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Lewis threw it away - again Cry

- at the first corner but I'm glad to see the stewards penalised all the other cars further back who ran wide and forced cars off at the first corner as well. (Resistance is Futile!)

I hope we see the Ferrari International Assistance representative on the top step at one of the last races as they've done so much to help Ferrari in this year's title challenge and they should receive at least a share of the glory.

I take it back ... I think these stupid decisions are all about colour ... the colour RED!

Quickly running out of patience and this really could be the last season I watch F1. Mosley to retire next year? ... Jean Todt as a possible replacement? Lewis and McLaren might as well go back to RC cars.

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Reply #24 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 1:55pm

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All the fun of the fair again ........don't ya just love the stewards Roll Eyes

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Reply #25 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 3:09pm

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LOL, Bourdais penalised for having the audacity to not only be in the way of the red car, but to then go on & finish ahead of it!!

Unbelievable.

Shame on you Bourdais. You know the rules when the coloured boy is ahead on points!!

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Reply #26 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:25pm

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I'd say both drivers are doing are doing a good job of trying to hand the title to each other.

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Reply #27 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:29pm

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Wouldn't it be ironic, after all the Massa/Hamilton stuff, if Kubica won the title.? Grin

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Reply #28 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 5:48pm

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see my post up a bit Wink

And you know what, I wouldn't be too upset if he did. There would be absolutly no way anyone can claim the FIA helped him. He's been the most consistant driver this year, and He's kept his mouth shut unlike most the other guys.

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Reply #29 - Oct 12^th, 2008 at 6:59pm

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Im very close to not giving a flying f*** about f1. It's about as rigged as an election in....

*not going to finish that statement

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Reply #30 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 2:55am

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 12^th, 2008 at 6:59pm:

Im very close to not giving a flying f*** about f1. It's about as rigged as an election in....

*not going to finish that statement

Seems a drive through penalty or a time penalty (as we have found out, the same thing towards the end of the race) that cannot be appealed against is rather a free hand at changing the outcome of a race, though I think that it is more in the direction of the stewards being a little over enthusiastic to hand out penalties for even the most minor infraction. However, Bourdais penalty, seems that the only answer is that an appointed official stands at the end of the pit lane with a pair of binoculars, has a good look up the straight for any ~~red~~ traffic and then lets the car leave the pits. When you have a pit that exits onto the first corner................pointless, I am only wearing out my keyboard.

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Reply #31 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 6:21am

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Been thinking overnight ... this is only going to get worse next season.

With the rule changes that are due to come in next year reducing the aerodynamic effects and having the engines all the same, this will allow the cars to get closer ie. bring more overtaking opportunities.

This will obviously bring more opportunities for the stewards to rule on close shaves and racing incidents as the cars jostle for position on track. The more opportunity they'll have to affect the outcome of the races off the track.

I hope I'm wrong.

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Reply #32 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 8:35am

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Well some are saying that all the rules are likely to spread the field out again next year, and for a few years possibly. The likely contenders being the usual Ferrari, Mclaren BMW and maybe renault. But the midfield is unlikely to be seperated by just a few tenths and more like the old days of a second or more.

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Reply #33 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:36am

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the fia needs to decide if f1 is about racing or well organized parades with crashes

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Reply #34 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:42am

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:36am:

or well organized parades with crashes

You mean nascar then Lips Sealed

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Reply #35 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 3:51pm

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Craig. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:42am:

The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:36am:

or well organized parades with crashes

You mean nascar then Lips Sealed

You beat me to it. Grin

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Reply #36 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 7:31pm

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 3:51pm:

Craig. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:42am:

The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:36am:

or well organized parades with crashes

You mean nascar then Lips Sealed

You beat me to it. Grin

HAHAHA!!! Thats poetry to my soul

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