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Jul 10
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, 2008 at 11:28pm
Dr.bob7
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I want to get into aircraft design but do I need to have the FSx SDK?
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Jul 10
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, 2008 at 11:34pm
NickN
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yes
and I suggest you also check out
www.fsdeveloper.com
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
and keep in mind, a good plane can take months if not longer to make, even a year or more with a complicated design
you have to start somewhere and aircraft design is not a 'drag and drop' hobby. It does require 3D model building software like GMAX and 3DS
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Jul 11
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"GMAX
and
3DS"?
"3DS"?
And I was just about to "crack knuckles" and start sorting out what I already had.
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"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Jul 11
th
, 2008 at 2:28am
Alrot
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I don't know why ,If people knew how dificult this is ,even the most expert could take
several month to make a single model,Most of them join in groups ,one for texture other for
gauges ,this is not easy ,and its though to learn ,few moth ago I though FSX-SDK was tough
and absurn..I was Wrong ..
Today I realize its indeed more friendly with the animation ,the exportations are
instataniuos ,Not like the makemdl9 ,every exportation could take an hour ,and this is about prove and fail game ..
Practicly what you see inside Gmax its what you get ,Diferent than FS9-SDK witch you did have to export more to see if what you see (Animation) work fine in the game..and wait for hours for that ..
there is a beutiful Dialog between gmax and the plugins FSX-SDK having a better effects and more features..
What I don't like of FSX-SDK. its the vulnerability of the mdl format there is a freewaresoftware that is being use to hack designers model encripted under modeldef.xml.and it came in two diferent parts interior and exterior wich any VC can be use as if it
where a 2d panel, a 2d panel can be made in 2 hours while a VC can take at least a month
,Frtuanly the Team including Bill Leaming developt find a way in a code wich the VCs will be useless without the plane Like an attachment recently and I apply..very effective
I apply into the 707 VC this is what they will find if this VC in place in another aircraft
Unfortuanly this is a matter of time when some one find this vulnerability of FSX-SDK MDL models import the mdl and do anything they want with others work ,Like one those heroes call "airplane fixers" wich for me are just pirates and Poor hackers uncapable to to doo their own aircraft or sceneries..
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Jul 11
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, 2008 at 1:11pm
Fr. Bill
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Boikat wrote
on Jul 11
th
, 2008 at 2:04am:
"GMAX
and
3DS"?
"3DS"?
And I was just about to "crack knuckles" and start sorting out what I already had.
Nick meant
OR
, of course...
GMax is more or less a version of 3d Studio Max v4.1
Max6/7/8/9 are all supported for FSX model work as well.
Bill
Gauge Programming - 3d Modeling Eaglesoft Development Group
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600-4GB DDR2 Crucial PC6400-800 GB SATA-ATI Radeon HD2400 Pro 256MB DX10
NOTE: Unless explicitly stated in the post, everything written by my hand is
MY
opinion. I do
NOT
speak for any company, real or imagined...
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Jul 11
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Thanks Fr. Bill. I was beginning to wonder how many more programs I was going to have to obtain.
(Though, I'm sure there are a few more that I will find I need as I go along.)
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Jul 11
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, 2008 at 2:13pm
NickN
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LOL
yes .. OR
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Jul 11
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, 2008 at 2:55pm
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dam you microsoft why couldnt standard have the SDK
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Jul 11
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You can always start to learn Gmax and get FSX deluxe later.
There is a lot to learn in basic model making so why not see how you get on for now.
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Jul 11
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garryrussell wrote
on Jul 11
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, 2008 at 5:16pm:
You can always start to learn Gmax and get FSX deluxe later.
There is a lot to learn in basic model making so why not see how you get on for now.
One of the things I was thinking about doing was to look over some of those abandonded "adopt a design" files and see if that will help generate a "learning curve". I found a "Firefly" and downloaded it a while back. It's model was don, it's texture looks close to done, no panel that I remeber, no VC, but that is something I can live without for now, I think it had a sound folder, but the .air file seemed to have needed some work (Sitting on the ground was like sitting in a blender. I'm guessing tat's the .air file...) It also needed a effects package.
When I get all the separate parts all straightened out, I may use that as my "test bed" before I make my own "from the ground up" vehicle.
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Jul 11
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<sigh> Not even a tiny little mention of Freeflight Design SHop, a 10 year old site dedicated to flightsim modelling ??
No mention of FSDS as a modelling tool?
<sniff>
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Jul 11
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, 2008 at 9:58pm
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Felix/FFDS wrote
on Jul 11
th
, 2008 at 8:13pm:
<sigh> Not even a tiny little mention of Freeflight Design SHop, a 10 year old site dedicated to flightsim modelling ??
No mention of FSDS as a modelling tool?
<sniff>
SPANK ME!
(Alrots copilot can.. the rest of you back off,.... now
)
I forgot Felix... its just been so long since it stuck my nose in a model I forgot all about you
http://www.freeflightdesign.com/
http://simviation.com/fsdesign_fsds.htm
hw does need to learn about the differences in FS9 and FSX though
SDK is needed but modeling skills need to be perfected first, then learn how SDK elements work with it
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Jul 11
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, 2008 at 10:11pm
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Felix/FFDS wrote
on Jul 11
th
, 2008 at 8:13pm:
<sigh> Not even a tiny little mention of Freeflight Design SHop, a 10 year old site dedicated to flightsim modelling ??
No mention of FSDS as a modelling tool?
<sniff>
Why, I nelieve you just did, and NickN just supplied the URLs, so I'll probably toddle off to look at them shortly. (Bad day, long story. Outer tie rods. PTTTTTHHH!!
)
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own" Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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