I dont get what you mean, Is there no window for your aircraft (if not ill teach you how to edit a config for one) or is the window created and the texture not showing up? 

ok I think I can fix your problem, first what model did you paint? if it was a FSX default aircraft what file type did you save it as?

Im repainting the b747-400.

Inside my :   C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes , i have my repainted aircrft folder called B747_RCA.

I have all required folders like the 'model', 'panel', 'sound', 'soundai' , 'texture' and 'texture1' .

Inside the ' texture ' folder,i have the default b747-400 with the all white paintjob while the 'texture1' folder,i have some files that i've done with the new paintjob. Etc 'b747_1_t.dds' , 'b747_1_t_specular' and some files from saved to bitmap image.

I do not have any thumbnail for the 'texture1' folder.

And this is my aicraft configure for the B747_RCA folder.

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[fltsim.0]
title=Boeing 747-400 RCA
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=N747RCA
atc_airline=RollerCoaster Airline
atc_flight_number=2008
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="RCA 2008"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"
description="Just recently, the 747_RCA made its first trip from Singapore to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class."



[General]
atc_type=BOEING
atc_model=B744
editable=0
performance="Cruise Speed\n0.85 Mach         565 mph         910 km\/h\n\nEngine options\nPratt & Whitney PW4062\nRolls-Royce RB211-524H\nGeneral Electric CF6-80C2B5F\n\nMaximum Range\n7,325 nm         13,570 km\n\nMaximum Certified Operating Altitude              45,100 ft          13,747 m\n\nFuel Capacity\n57,285 gal       216,840 L\n\nBasic Empty Weight\n394,088 lb    178,755 kg\n\nMax Gross Weight                        875,000 lb       396,893 kg\n\nLength\n231 ft, 10 in       70.6 m\n\nWingspan\n211 ft, 5 in         64.4 m\n\nHeight\n63 ft, 8 in         19.4 m\n\nSeating Typical 3-class configuration - 416\nTypical 2-class configuration - 524"
Category = airplane

[CameraDefinition.0]
Title = "Right Side Window"
Guid = {54F54B8A-3EC2-2D4E-8D10-B8F9D0F16ACC}
Description = View of the right wing from the passenger cabin
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 5.5, 0.75, -13
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 95
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.1]
Title = "Left Side Window"
Guid = {0ae3f864-da10-4e5a-977c-b9bba47d6f7a}
Description = View of the left wing from the passenger cabin
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -5.5, 0.75, -13
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 265
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.2]
Title = "Landing Gear"
Guid = {96873AAD-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB051}
Description = View of the landing gear and left wing inboard flaps
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .58
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -11, -4.1, -16
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 44
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.3]
Title = "Tail"
Guid = {5c1df273-034b-4e7f-953a-9d5e26f1646c}
Description = Looking forward from behind the aircraft
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, 9.0, -80.0
InitialPbh = 5, 0, 0
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.4]
Title = "Right Wing"
Guid = {C690EAFD-223A-42d0-99E0-681ADF93BB59}
Description = View from the right wing tip looking at the cockpit
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 40.8, 1.4, 4.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, 270
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect = FALSE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.5]
Title = "Left Wing"
Guid = {f25dfa2e-fd2e-4b89-81e2-0575cbcb60de}
Description = View from the left wing tip looking at the cockpit
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -40.8, 1.4, 4.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, 90
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect = No
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "Right Seat"
Guid = {8ff6c134-098d-409f-baec-caba3f683f98}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=1.25, 0.0, 0.0
InitialPbh=0, 0, 0

[CameraDefinition.002]
Title = "Radio Stack"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-2E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.6, 0.30, -0.05
InitialPbh=85, 0, 0

[CameraDefinition.003]
Title = "Overhead Panel"
Guid = {4ca337db-ae88-4c5f-96ea-ddebbd2a86fe}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.8
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.635, -0.58, -0.2
InitialPbh=-55.0, 0, 0

[CameraDefinition.004]
Title = "Engine Controls"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-3E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = None
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = None
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.6, 0.3, 0
InitialPbh=59.5, 0, 0


[pitot_static]
vertical_speed_time_constant = 1                //Increasing this value will cause a more instantaneous reaction in the VSI
pitot_heat = 1.0    //Scalar on heat effectiveness, 0 = not available


[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 875000                       // (pounds)
empty_weight = 394088                           // (pounds)

reference_datum_position     =  83.5, 0, 0      // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position     =  -90.5, 0, 0     // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from specified datum

max_number_of_stations = 50

station_load.0  =   170.0,       -19.0,      -2.0,       8.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.1  =   170.0,       -19.0,       2.0,       8.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.2  =  1700.0,       -83.5,       0.0,       0.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.3  =  5440.0,       -27.0,       0.0,       0.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.4  =  5780.0,       -65.0,       0.0,       0.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.5  =  7140.0,       -50.0,       0.0,       8.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.6  = 10710.0,       -91.0,       0.0,       0.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.7  = 18020.0,      -119.0,       0.0,       0.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.8  = 23800.0,      -160.0,       0.0,       0.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.9  = 18000.0,       -52.0,       0.0,      -6.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.10 =  6000.0,      -123.0,       0.0,      -6.0     //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)

station_name.0  =  "Pilot"          
station_name.1  =  "Co-Pilot"       
station_name.2  =  "Crew"            
station_name.3  =  "First Class"    
station_name.4  =  "Business Class" 
station_name.5  =  "Upper Deck"      
station_name.6  =  "Coach 1-7"      
station_name.7  =  "Coach 8-18"      
station_name.8  =  "Coach 19-34"    
station_name.9  =  "Forward Baggage"
station_name.10 =  "Aft Baggage"    

;Moments of Inertia
empty_weight_roll_MOI    = 13352310
empty_weight_pitch_MOI   = 24223159
empty_weight_yaw_MOI     = 39531785
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0


[fuel]
LeftMain  =   -96.0, -28.0, -4.0, 12546.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
RightMain =   -96.0,  28.0, -4.0, 12546.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
LeftAux   =  -112.0, -36.5, -3.0,  4482.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
RightAux  =  -112.0,  36.5, -3.0,  4482.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
LeftTip   =  -130.0, -73.0,  0.0,  1322.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
RightTip  =  -130.0,  73.0,  0.0,  1322.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
Center1   =   -83.5,   0.0, -7.0, 17164.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
Center2   =  -193.5,   0.0,  6.0,  3300.0, 0.0    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type = 2                                     //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetA
number_of_tank_selectors = 1                   
electric_pump=1
fuel_dump_rate = 0.0167                        //Percent of max quantity per second, i.e. about 1 minute for full fuel

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area               = 5825.0                //Square feet
wing_span               = 211.4                 //Feet
wing_root_chord         = 48.8                  //Feet
wing_dihedral           = 7.0                   //Degrees
wing_incidence          = 2.0                   //Degrees
wing_twist              = -1.0                  //Degrees
oswald_efficiency_factor= 0.68                  //Measure of lift effeciency of wing
wing_winglets_flag      = 1                     //Are winglets available?
wing_sweep              = 37.5                  //Degrees, wing leading edge
wing_pos_apex_lon       = -58.2                 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
wing_pos_apex_vert      = -5                     //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
htail_area              = 1470            

From what I understand you have two texture folders but there is only one CFG paint entry

Also you can't change the names of the DDS files as if you do the model won't recognise them.

You really need to read the tutorial on adding paints to set the CFG up properly.

As it stands there is nothing to tell FS it's there and if there was it wouldn't read it properly because you changed the filenames,

So have all your new paints in a seperate texture folder but make sure the DDS files have the original correct names.

Then add a paint entry....must have a different title and the entry number must follow on........the texture line will be texture= whatever the new paint's folder is called

guys..im now still trying to figure out..

Now the problem is,there is the aircrft on the selection menu..only to have no paintjobs on it...only just grey aircft ( No windows at all,only the aircft) ...

Can anyone do the paint job for me? ..i'll sent you the design for the paintjob..psl pm me..

FSX native aircraft should be saved in DDS files (unless a paint kit tells you not to

todayshorse wrote on Jun 24^th, 2008 at 11:52am:


I dont get this,before i send the texture file to dxt.bmp,i have to save the files into 32bit?...how do you get this? ...i can only save to different file like Photoshop,Paint Shop Pro, Mcintosh.. can you teach me in detail...

What i did was in the dxt.bmp,i was told to save in 'DDS DXT 3'..for you info, i followed the tutorials in 'http://www.calclassic.com/repaint.htm' .

Dr.bob7 wrote on Jun 24^th, 2008 at 10:32pm:


no i didnt rotate in any way,only zoom in and out to repaint it as my design is quite simple,only wordings...so should i change it to DXT 5?

todayshorse wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 2:38am:


My psp nvr prompt me on wheather i want to save it in 16 bit,24 bit or 36 bit...

tas03 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 3:58am:


Ah! Oh well! Ill get my coat!

Shouldn't matter which format you save the edited texture in. DXTBmp will read all common image formats. I don't know if it's suitable for saving FSX textures in DDS format. The latest ImageTool (included in the FSX SDK) might be a better option.

There seems to be some confusion with graphics editors. PSP usually refers to Paint Shop Pro.

garryrussell wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 6:21am:

You know more about repainting than me so I'll accept what you're saying about 32 bit resolution BMPs.* What I meant was the actual image format, not the resolution. It doesn't have to be in BMP format for DXTBmp to open it.

*I just tried a test piece saved as 32-bit BMP from Photoshop Elements 6.0. I then opened it in DXTBmp & saved out in DXT3 Extended BMP format. It works perfectly in FS9.

garryrussell wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 6:48am:

Sorry but I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. DXTBmp should also be able to convert images in standard formats into FS texture formats. That's what it was developed for. My test proves that it will convert standard Photoshop 32-bit images into FS texture formats including Extended 32-bit 888-8.

Hi Hagar

If I save a 32 bit in photoshop then DXT converts it OK but my FS crashes when it tries to load that.

It could that if you have the alpha embedded you need to use 32 as you have for channels but for ordinary 3 channel RGB 24 bit is all that is being used.  I always make and load my alpha's seperately.

I get loads of queries from folk who get this crashing and it due to them not saving as 24bit.

Tas03

You have two texutre but only on paint CFG

There need to be an entry for each

The file names in you new RCA texture should be identical to the original textures files names of the model will not read them.

My guess ias you are only seeing one in the chooser

try this.......paste this into you CFG replacing the area above [General]

Back up your old CFG first

[fltsim.0]
title=Boeing 747-400 RCA
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=N747RCA
atc_airline=RollerCoaster Airline
atc_flight_number=2008
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="RCA 2008"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"
description="Just recently, the 747_RCA made its first trip from Singapore to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class."

[fltsim.1]
title=Boeing 747-400 RCA1
sim=Boeing747-400
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=RCA
kb_checklists=Boeing747-400_check
kb_reference=Boeing747-400_ref
atc_id=N747RCA
atc_airline=RollerCoaster Airline
atc_flight_number=2008
atc_heavy=1
ui_manufacturer="Boeing"
ui_type="747-400"
ui_variation="RCA 2008 new paint"
ui_typerole="Commercial Airliner"
ui_createdby="Microsoft Corporation"
description="Just recently, the 747_RCA made its first trip from Singapore to London.  Since then, it's become the standard by which other large passenger jets are judged. Its size, range, speed and capacity were then, and are now, the best in its class."

I don't have FS.X

Can you see two entires now in the chooser??

Sorry mate

I made a error in that cfg..I've corrected it, can you try it again and see if you get two different aircraft in the chooser..just paste that whole section in as before

garryrussell wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 8:44am:

Hi Garry. Perhaps I should have qualified that by saying it works on FS9 on my system. I obviously can't speak for every combination of OS + video card/driver + display settings etc.

tas03. I can't confirm this as I don't have FSX. It might also depend on whether you have SP1 or SP2 installed. I suspect your problem is caused by using DXTBmp to save the repainted textures in DXT5 DDS format. I've been told that this will not work & you have to use the latest Imagetool I mentioned earlier. You could try saving them in Extended DXT3 BMP format & see what happens. You might have to flip the images before saving for them to display properly.

Hagar

I was think that myself afterwards and some folks have various plug ins to aid thing.

I have been on with tas03 this afternoon and there is an ingrained problem and two others since I spoke to him have a problem as well.

The question of DXTBmp and DDS came up.

Problem with formats is they look OK

If I turn a DDS to 32-888-8 I can't transform it at all in photoshop....all that is greyed out indicating a bad bit depth but it checks out OK via the numbers.

However in PSP7 there is no BMP option and the BMP can be scaled and rotated. Almost as if Photoshops ability top handle different types of BMP see a conflict where as PSP just gets on with it.

It's a minefield and that's why I tend to stick to the save in 24 bit and bring in separate alphas.

As you quite rightly say different set ups mean different things

My first model is in beta and one gets it doing odd thing others not so bad some not at all.....same model, same version, different setup.

One good thing about this thread is the amount of oddities that have shown up...all good to know

TD Horse.yep  your problem was of no surprise to me as it is common, but some don't seem to get it.

So frustrating when all you need to do is see it and it won't show.

I hope not too many potentially good painters have been put off by this.......but thread like this will hopefully sort them out.

Garry

garryrussell wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 1:54pm:

Ah, I think I understand it now. Photoshop can't handle Extended BMP textures direct but it should work if you load the texture into DXTBmp & send it to Photoshop for editing in the usual way. That's the reason I never had these problems.

I wouldn't expect a standard graphics editor (even one as advanced as Photoshop) to be capable of working with compressed Extended BMP images including an Alpha Channel. That's what the texture converters like DXTBmp were developed for. They split the Alpha channel from the main image when opening textures so both can be edited separately.

One thing puzzles me about all this. What is the advantage of saving from Photoshop in 32-bit BMP format? I believe Targa format (.tga) is more suitable for creating FSX textures.

Try Imagetool.

did someone mention having Imagetool in FSX deluxe edition?..where is it?..i cant find any...only SDK..

OK

Works fine with image tool

Garry