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Reply #90 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 4:55pm

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Thats right

Put it all on me


LOL

That works!

And probably best so we all end up with the same changes

Guys... I cant thank you enough for what you have done.. so far we have accomplished a lot with this bird


Bob:
As for a repaint.. Bob, I don't know if that will make it into the update or not at this point. Its a job to do that right and get all the markings clean. I will see if I can squeeze it in. If not I will upload a repaint for her ASAP after the initial release.

What I think I may do is get the file to Bob once we have finished all the tech and let him try her out. From there get feedback he may know from experience we don't about her handling. even riding with the crew below he should be able to tell if things feel right.







 
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Reply #91 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:10pm

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Hi Brett

I totally agree that we need for the want of a better word a team leader to coordinate things, I’ve not yet had any real time to start on the pedestal pop up work, and I was just about to have a go with your engine switch additions to try a figure out a start up sequence based on the California Classics start up procedure modified if need be for the Marlin.

As for the panel, once the Nav Officers avionics master switch is removed, has anyone got any suggestions on any additions, subtractions or modifications to the panel as it now stands, as I will admit that as I’m rubbish at landing flying boats I was going to add a radar alt gauge just to the left of the main flight instruments (if possible one with an audible tone) if I can locate a freeware gauge that looks right in my collection, although while typing this I’ve just remembered that I have an altitude call-out gauge that works well in FSX, with call-outs from 2,500 feet down to I think 10 feet it could be 5.

Any and all feedback welcome, I must admit that it would have been helpful if I could have got hold of some cockpit shots of the Marlin, but so far I’ve been unable to locate any, I just hope that anybody who has been in the Office of the Marlin will not be to upset by the present rendition.

I’ve never done so much typing; need coffee, a smoke (disgusting habit I know) and some Hendrix for a while.

Back soon.

Jim Hodkinson
 
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Reply #92 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:21pm

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Brett.. Forget the engine/eff changes. I just did the single engine hussle... I dont think thats going to get any better. Nice job on nailing that




Jim, I am not a panel expert and that is one area I am probably can not be much help however I will see if I can find anything on the Marlin. Bob70 may have some source data. As for matching, at this point I would not be too concerned given the original model but I would like to try and get everything calibrated and working that we do have, if possible.

I know there is a Martin marlin 130 out there made by Jens B. Kristensen but I do not know what the VC or gages look like.. I will see if I can dig that one up. I think its a AVS.... but I do not know if its posted here.



The FX are fun... Bob said they would churn up the water if it was too calm and thats exactly what those FX do.. and she will definitely churn things up with the flight dynamics as they are right now going around in circles

LOL!


I will see if I can come up with some source materials for the SP5B. Please dont knock yourself out rushing as there is no time constraint on this.  Smiley The sound and panel so far are shaping up great.



 
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Reply #93 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:36pm

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Hi Nick

Ok I’ll get to work on the start up procedure, I must admit that I’m more than a little anxious / curious as to how a former Naval Aviator that was part of the aircrew thinks she measures up.

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Reply #94 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:57pm

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Jim Hodkinson wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:36pm:
Hi Nick

Ok I’ll get to work on the start up procedure, I must admit that I’m more than a little anxious / curious as to how a former Naval Aviator that was part of the aircrew thinks she measures up.

Jim Hodkinson



Once we get things to a certain point I will see about getting it to Bob in one (or 2) email send(s)..

I would like to try and finish what we have and wish to try and then go from there. If Brett does reverse pitch I need to write the gauge edit and create the FX so thats on my list and I am looking at the paint part too.


I wonder if we can fudge the landing gear edits to allow it to at least sit on the ground outside the water and roll a tad.. hmmmmmm

Would be kind of neat to be able to power her out of the water onto a ramp or beach


 
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Reply #95 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 6:21pm

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Hi Everyone

Well here are a couple of photos I found in my cruise book I copied. Don't know if they will be of any help to you. That's about all I could find.

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Camelback Mountain....Looking north from Sky Harbor Int.  KPHX Phoenix, Arizona  USA
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Reply #96 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 6:40pm

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NickN wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:57pm:
Jim Hodkinson wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 5:36pm:
Hi Nick

Ok I’ll get to work on the start up procedure, I must admit that I’m more than a little anxious / curious as to how a former Naval Aviator that was part of the aircrew thinks she measures up.

Jim Hodkinson



Once we get things to a certain point I will see about getting it to Bob in one (or 2) email send(s)..

I would like to try and finish what we have and wish to try and then go from there. If Brett does reverse pitch I need to write the gauge edit and create the FX so thats on my list and I am looking at the paint part too.


I wonder if we can fudge the landing gear edits to allow it to at least sit on the ground outside the water and roll a tad.. hmmmmmm

Would be kind of neat to be able to power her out of the water onto a ramp or beach




Hi Nick

I can receive up to 20MB per email. I also  have a Pando account for really big files.  If you do send me the files, please include any special installation instructions. Thanks

Smiley Bob

"I wonder if we can fudge the landing gear edits to allow it to at least sit on the ground outside the water and roll a tad.. hmmmmmm

Would be kind of neat to be able to power her out of the water onto a ramp or beach"  Cool Big YES  I hope we can.
 

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Reply #97 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 6:50pm

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Blown Piston FX, oil spray FX and Engine fires all working... just need fire ALARM/ control to put it out..

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Great stuff with those pics Bob!


 
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Reply #98 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:08pm

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Hi Bob

Thank you for the photographs, apart from the centre section of the main panel I think we are close, I’m assuming that the control panel in the centre section is the autopilot, which unfortunately is modelled as being above the flight panel an the aircraft we have to work with.

Those photographs are from what I’ve been able to find out extremely rare shots of the Marlins Office, it’s shame that the pedestal in the models VC is not of the actual type as that would have been a lot easier to reproduce as either a pop up window for the 2D cockpit or as an actual addition to the 2d panel itself.

I must admit that the thought of recreating what I presume is the flight engineers panel in the second photograph is one that fills me with dread, just in case your listening Nick.

I really hope that in your eyes the end result will do her justice.

Jim Hodkinson
 
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Reply #99 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:16pm

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No no no no  Jim  If we had access to the VC I would say lets go for it and make it all as correct as possible

LOL

The direction we are going is fine.. I was just having fun with FX and failures.. they all work great now. If someonw wants to have the sim throw them random engine failures or even set them up they will get a heck of a show!


Blown pistons.. oil spray.. smoke, fire and flames, the works

It would be nice if we had fire/alarm control on the engines but I have never researched that to see how to set it up or if one of the default aircraft has it and can be transferred to this panel.


I was also looking for a stall warning or buzzer perhaps.. the panels are new to me so its fun poking around
 
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Reply #100 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:18pm

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Hi Nick

I’ll see what I can come up with regarding fire alarms and extinguishers,

By the way I added the altitude call-outs, at the moment they call out at 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10 feet, which I realise is a cheat but as I’m REALLY a novice at seaplane work it does help, as I was previously using the spot view for gauging the landings,

The gauge itself is the freeware MeatWater Altitude Callouts Version 2, which I think I downloaded from AVS, although I have replaced the callout wave files as the originals are for me a little to mechanical.

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Reply #101 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:20pm

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Jim Hodkinson wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:18pm:
Hi Nick

I’ll see what I can come up with regarding fire alarms and extinguishers,

By the way I added the altitude call-outs, at the moment they call out at 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10 feet, which I realise is a cheat but as I’m REALLY a novice at seaplane work it does help, as I was previously using the spot view for gauging the landings,

The gauge itself is the freeware MeatWater Altitude Callouts Version 2, which I think I downloaded from AVS, although I have replaced the callout wave files as the originals are for me a little to mechanical.

Jim Hodkinson


Very cool Jim!

more toys, the more fun ''LOL!
 
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Reply #102 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:27pm

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I can't work on this until the AM.. but it shouldn't take long to test reversers.

As for ground-ops..  I can not only taxi (very carefully)..I can execute a no x-wind take-off the way it is now.
 
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Reply #103 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:28pm

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I will include a soundset for blown engine failure (piston clank) and also one for the water on the boat hull for the bow FX in the finished package
 
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Reply #104 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 7:29pm

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Hi Nick

I forgot to mention that I had the Martin Clipper already downloaded, but I had not installed it.

After doing so, just to check out the panel set up, it seems that the author has gone for a mixture of the California Classics gauges and some DC3 gauges, but now I’ve seen Bobs photographs it seems that we are somewhere in between the two, as from the look of the main panel flight instruments they appear to be of a relatively modern design given the squared off gauge surround.

So I think we are approximately correct, that’s approximately with a capital A.

Jim Hodkinson
 
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