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Mar 22nd, 2008 at 4:02pm

J3st3r   Offline
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Hey guys,

I currently have 86 processes running on my Windows XP Media Edition.  I have a feeling that is WAY too many.  Does anyone have any advice on how I can figure out which processes are non essential and shut them down?

Thanks,
Matt
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 4:05pm

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The easiest way is to get a program called EndItAll (just google it). It is freeware. However it won't let you shutdown essential processes. A good way of learning your system processes and it also tells you what they're doing. You might want to configure your bootup so that not so many processes start running without permission. Personally I use EasyClean (again freeware, google it) and you can edit the startup very easily using that as it tells you what things are what and then you don't have unnecessary processes firing up on booting Wink
These are two excellent programs to help you get to know your system better Cool
 

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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 5:53pm

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Thanks for the suggestions.  I will try those programs and see how it works out.

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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 6:19pm

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86? On XP? A trimmed down XP should have 20-30 processes.
 
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 6:24pm

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Just got done using EndItAll and am down to 75 processes.  Anymore suggestions or ideas?

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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 7:16pm

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I'd run spybot (update) No way should you have that many processes on a XP machine. Take a screenshot of task manager, processes. Maximize the window to show them all.
 
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2008 at 7:40pm

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Here they are.  Let me know what you think.

Thanks,
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Reply #7 - Mar 23rd, 2008 at 6:56am

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The image is unreadable.
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 24th, 2008 at 7:25pm

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I always say that it is only too many when it starts to hurt your system. I remember someone saying that certain OSs should only run a certain number of processes, but if it isnt causing slow downs, then it probably isnt a problem.

I run up to and about 95 processes in general or animationey type use.
 

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Reply #9 - Mar 24th, 2008 at 11:11pm

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You really shouldn't have more than 35 processes running. I have 28 running...but I am also running a ton of things and haven't turned off my computer for 12 hours...vista. Grin
 
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Reply #10 - Mar 25th, 2008 at 12:47am

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Since we're on the subject of too many running processes (and to avoid asking the same question twice in the forum) these processes are currently running on my system:

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/TaskManager1.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/TaskManager2.jpg

Also crss.exe, smss.exe, dllhost.exe, System, and System Idle Process SYSTEM

I might add that I've followed Nick's recommendations and had the list down to 38 at one point. The only three I've turned back on is the three required for Windows updates.

 

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Reply #11 - Mar 25th, 2008 at 11:36am
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Here's mine:

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/vkbackgroundapps.jpg

about a minute later:
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/vkbackgroundappsnone.jpg

Smiley

In my opinion, no matter what amount of background services you're running, try to clean your computer out. 80 or even 45 is WAAAAY to much. Even too much for a Dell with all the POS software that comes with it.

Try downloading Spybot search and destroy, ad-aware, and a good anti-virus system (AVG? Nod32 for a trial though...) and eliminate all viruses. You can also google processes then stop them from starting up..... ---->start---->run----->msconfig. Go into startup tab and disable the programs that you don't need. ---->start--->run--->services.msc---->disable any background services you don't need, set to manual so you have to manually start it up. Only do it if you're 100% sure on what it does, ending the wrong one... e.g. Windows audio, can disable your sound.

*Note, disabling the wrong services can potentially mess up your computer. Nick posted the services that should be OK to disable and also how to disable recource hogging performance logs - It's in one of the fsx forum stickies.



You can also disable things by using the registry;;

http://searchwincomputing.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid68_gci1287134,00.html

I only flicked through it as that's the only link I have, but it's probably best to read it up more rather than following that guys advice straight off the bat.



I've heard unticking programs in msconfig only stops them from being started up - but they're still loaded into memory. I don't know if this is true or not, but some registry edits and a registry cleaner SHOULD clean that up - I don't know since I havn't installed lots of junk onto my computer.
 
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Reply #12 - Mar 25th, 2008 at 3:36pm

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Quote:
Here's mine:

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/vkbackgroundapps.jpg

about a minute later:
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/vkbackgroundappsnone.jpg

Smiley

In my opinion, no matter what amount of background services you're running, try to clean your computer out. 80 or even 45 is WAAAAY to much. Even too much for a Dell with all the POS software that comes with it.

Try downloading Spybot search and destroy, ad-aware, and a good anti-virus system (AVG? Nod32 for a trial though...) and eliminate all viruses. You can also google processes then stop them from starting up..... ---->start---->run----->msconfig. Go into startup tab and disable the programs that you don't need. ---->start--->run--->services.msc---->disable any background services you don't need, set to manual so you have to manually start it up. Only do it if you're 100% sure on what it does, ending the wrong one... e.g. Windows audio, can disable your sound.

*Note, disabling the wrong services can potentially mess up your computer. Nick posted the services that should be OK to disable and also how to disable recource hogging performance logs - It's in one of the fsx forum stickies.



You can also disable things by using the registry;;

http://searchwincomputing.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid68_gci1287134,00.html

I only flicked through it as that's the only link I have, but it's probably best to read it up more rather than following that guys advice straight off the bat.



I've heard unticking programs in msconfig only stops them from being started up - but they're still loaded into memory. I don't know if this is true or not, but some registry edits and a registry cleaner SHOULD clean that up - I don't know since I havn't installed lots of junk onto my computer.

Hehehehehe....
Click the "Show Processes for all users button"

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Reply #13 - Mar 26th, 2008 at 12:56am
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I have one user account on this computer so clicking that made no change. Smiley

btw, the first screenshot was how it normally is, the second was after I ended everything, including all the background services resulting in a unusable PC.
 
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Reply #14 - Mar 26th, 2008 at 1:42am

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I hope the individual who posted the original thread has success reducing the number of processes he has.

As for myself, my startup is now 5, down from 8. Running processes is now 34, down from 41.
 

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Reply #15 - Mar 26th, 2008 at 1:52am
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One last thing, make sure to open up the application you plan on disabling and see if there's a option to disable it from there - it's no use having a mismatch between what windows sais and what the program thinks. Also, it's a good idea to remove the program if you're not going to use it.

Also, when disabling services, don't disable them from start-->run--->MSCONFIG, disable them from SERVICES.MSC. Also, stopping services from starting up by setting them to manual or disabled can stop some programs from working - so make sure you know what you're doing.  Personally, I set some services to MANUAL. For example, when I want to run O&O defrag I open up services.msc and manually start O&O defrag.

I am not sure how to remove the UNTICKED programs from MSCONFIG, but I think a regstry cleaner. e.g. registry mechanic, should do it or maybe them registry edits I link you guys to in the previous thread. ALSO http://www.google.com/search?hl=xx-hacker&q=msconfig+removing&btnG=Google+s3a%7C...

EDIT: Found out how to, tick everything in msconfig startup tab, restart. start-->run--->regedit.... Browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Delete entries you don't need, but you won't be abled to bring them back unless you edit registry or reinstall program again, so only do it with ones you DON'T need to run at startup.... EVER.

Good luck.

And another one last thing when you're all done, Start--->run--->rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks    might help optimise startup.  Best used with Nick Ns tweaks im the fsx forum stickies. Renember what I said about knowing what you're disabling? Taskscheduler service must be set to auto and running for this to work. Smiley

You can also get a TON of info from the fsx forum stickes.


AGAIN, be VERY CAREFUL if you're going to get more advanced and disable services and modding registry.

After some more tweaking...:
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/cleanpcvk2.jpg
If other people didn't use this PC for printing, then I could disable a further two, and another one or two if I disable an Nvidia application and integration into explorer.exe, and another one if I let Windows audio handle sound instead of my sound drivers.
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