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Oct 31^st, 2007 at 4:19pm

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Yeah, another one of these threads.. Ive searched and gone through Nicks tips, however they arent much help with Vista. I suppose I can research these myself, but how the hell do you remove the unnecessary ones???

How I still get 20+FPS on my Sim with all this SH*T running continues to mystify me. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 4:30pm

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I wouldn't worry about it, like you said, you're still getting good FPS in the sim... and your CPU usage tells a tale, as it should with a quad core.

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Reply #2 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 4:31pm

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And to add, in another similar thread, I saw a recommendation to go to MSCONFIG and disable ALL services, reboot, and the important ones will start on their own at startup. Id like some more unput on this before I try it.

As for the unnecessary processes/services, Id like to know Where to go on this PC to perminantly disable them.

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Reply #3 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 4:33pm

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I wouldn't worry about it, like you said, you're still getting good FPS in the sim... and your CPU usage tells a tale, as it should with a quad core.

Does the physical memory not ALSO tell a tale? Grin

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Reply #4 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 4:42pm

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Okay, curious...

If I open my task manager > Right click a useless/unnecessary task > open file location > create a backup > Delete the file/ application > Reboot >>> it will not restart @ startup. Is this correct?

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Reply #5 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 5:00pm

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Jack,

I'm no expert and I don't have Vista, but take a look at these:

http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_unnecessary_services_on_windows_xp

http://www.windowsstartup.com/wso/history.php

Maybe there's a chance that some services used in XP might be used in Vista.

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Reply #6 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 5:30pm

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Thanks Aussie, reviewing the list... Cool

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Reply #7 - Oct 31^st, 2007 at 7:49pm

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You simply right click and hit End Process... Wink

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Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2007 at 4:10pm

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Ashar wrote on Oct 31^st, 2007 at 7:49pm:

You simply right click and hit End Process... Wink

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... no way!

click start, enter 'services.msc' in the search box and press enter
The other way is Control pane. \ system and maitnance \ Administrative tools, then Services icon
Vista screams about admin mode and you are at the right place to disable a few of them

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Reply #9 - Nov 17^th, 2007 at 2:02pm

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if you run msconfig - you can 'hide' ms services - then disable all the other stuff in services and start up. Then when you restart the computer - it will start up fine without all the background stuff (like virus scanners etc).

Doing this gives me an extra 1/2 frame only and is not worth the while in my humble opinion.

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Reply #10 - Nov 17^th, 2007 at 2:06pm

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oh -I forgot -

to find msconfig

you type msconfig into the search in the start button. Then when it pops up- you can click on it to open its menu and you can take it from there. To return to ordinary running is easy - just repeat the procedure and reboot.

Certainly, the computer will run without all the services and startups - but it does not run much faster.

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Reply #11 - Jan 24^th, 2008 at 8:07am

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http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm

Do not use msconfig to change service settings, go into administrative tools, services.

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Reply #12 - Jan 24^th, 2008 at 9:44am

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I have a news flash for you guys... you best stay clear of black viper because that site will get you into more trouble that you would ever think

His method of shutting down services, does NOT remove them from the memory

I dont know how many times I have come across people in this forum and others that were having all sorts of problems to find out they visited black viper... the site is dangerous unless you are an IT expert and know exactly what you are doing

Regardless of his lists, which are WRONG

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Reply #13 - Jan 24^th, 2008 at 10:07am

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NickN wrote on Jan 24^th, 2008 at 9:44am:

His method of shutting down services, does NOT remove them from the memory

Disabled here fine.

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Reply #14 - Jan 24^th, 2008 at 12:30pm

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Mermaid Man wrote on Jan 24^th, 2008 at 10:07am:

NickN wrote on Jan 24^th, 2008 at 9:44am:

His method of shutting down services, does NOT remove them from the memory

Disabled here fine.

sure it disabled, thats not what I am talking about and what causes systems to choke more than the process itself...

Question

Did you set the dropdown to DISABLED and click apply, and thats it?

Or

did you select to not allow the service to start at LOGON and disabled its ability to boot, because if you didn’t, then the service STILL STARTS and then the process is ended by Windows but NOT until it allocates a block of memory which is now loaded along with all the other improperly shut down services which eat blocks of memory at boot even if the process is terminated

Black Viper is dangerous. I suppose you shut down the task scheduler too?... not a good idea along with an entire list of very bad ideas that site hosts

The task scheduler is needed to maintain the automatic boot and prefetch optimizer, did BV tell you that? Nope

How about DCOM or COM+EVENT, di good old BV tell you that modern video drivers have dependencies on those services? NOPE

The guy is a menace because he does not post the right information and leaves out much because he doesn’t know any better

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Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2008 at 9:08pm

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Yo Nick, way to go. Just say it like it is man Grin

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