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Oct 27th, 2007 at 2:22pm

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A quick question for my American cousins here. A friend of mine was in the States last year and her little boy got into Thomas The Tank Engine and Bob The Builder (Mini-mod loves 'em). Now she lent me some of their Thomas and Bob DVDs and they've been "dubbed" into 'American' English..... why?
I remember when I lived in the US that everyone loved my accent and the girls couldn't get enough of it at school in California Cool Cool Cool Ahh Cecilia Schultz.... a singularly happy memory Smiley
I'm sorry but Sir Topham Hat should not sound like someone from Texas with a really bad cold! Thomas shouldn't sound like some half-wit from Ohio etc etc. I won't even go into Disney making Winnie The Pooh sounding like an imbecile from Oklahoma (I mean these things are British)!
Do US TV producers (and certain idiots at Disney) suffer from xenophobia? Or do they think everyone should sound like that ****wit Barney (whom I hate even more than the 4 fat twits from the UK whose collective name begins with 'T')?
My American friends all love the UK accent, what is going on?

Mark (confused and terribly upset)

Ps. In Britain we don't dub things into an English accent... imagine a certain Mr. A. Baldwin with a Brummie accent Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #1 - Oct 27th, 2007 at 2:46pm

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Good point Mark. I've often wondered the same thing. British actors apparently make a fortune in Hollywood these days.

The original Thomas the Tank Engine series was narrated by Ringo Starr. Can't think of anyone better. They've even changed the name of it now. Roll Eyes

PS. Actor David Prowse (Darth Vader in Star Wars) was on the radio the other day. He speaks with a broad West Country accent. He said that although the films were made in England with many British actors, George Lucas later had his voice dubbed into American without telling him. He is still upset about it.
 

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Reply #2 - Oct 27th, 2007 at 2:54pm

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Okay in the case of David "Darth Vader" Prowse I can understand it..... heck most Brits have trouble with his accent Grin
I remember nearly dying laughing watching Lock, Stock And Two Smoking Barrels having English subtitles for those who don't speak Cockney Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 27th, 2007 at 3:35pm

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I watched that show a few days ago...Still sounded very British to me Roll Eyes Grin Cheesy
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 27th, 2007 at 3:48pm

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Ashar wrote on Oct 27th, 2007 at 3:35pm:
I watched that show a few days ago...Still sounded very British to me Roll Eyes Grin Cheesy

Perhaps you watched the British version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Angelis
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 27th, 2007 at 7:56pm

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Hagar wrote on Oct 27th, 2007 at 3:48pm:
Ashar wrote on Oct 27th, 2007 at 3:35pm:
I watched that show a few days ago...Still sounded very British to me Roll Eyes Grin Cheesy

Perhaps you watched the British version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Angelis


Maybe so...I still love Thomas the Tank Engine...LOL...Wish I had a model railway set like that Cry Grin
 

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Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2007 at 2:12pm

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Ehrm, you think that's bad? Try the Simpsons dubbed in German... now THAT is a crime...  Grin
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 28th, 2007 at 7:23pm

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Omag 2.0 wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 2:12pm:
Ehrm, you think that's bad? Try the Simpsons dubbed in German... now THAT is a crime...  Grin


LOL...It's funnier in Italian...At least they kept the original "D'oh!" Grin Grin
 

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Reply #8 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 3:00am

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You should try watching anything on Hungarian TV. The dubbing is dire! My favourite for a good laugh was Battle of Britain one night, they'd dubbed the English but subtitled the German Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 7:37am

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ozzy72 wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 3:00am:
You should try watching anything on Hungarian TV. The dubbing is dire! My favourite for a good laugh was Battle of Britain one night, they'd dubbed the English but subtitled the German Roll Eyes

Probably dubbed the original English version which already has the German subtitles.
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 7:56am

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What bugs me the most about the US dubs of Thomas The Tank Engine is the input of the political-correctness brigade, who made sure that the Fat Controller is always called Sir Topham Hatt.

Nope, he's the Fat Controller - because there's also a Thin Controller for the narrow-gauge lines. Wouldn't be so bad if it was universally applied - but then we'd have 'A Little-Less-Than-Stunningly-Beautiful Betty', or 'The Beverly Slightly-Less-Than-Intelligent-Backwoods-Country-Folk', or 'Miami Vaguely-Undesirable-Activity' and that wouldn't do, would it!

I'd have voted for subtitles for anything Mr T said in 'The A Team' (AKA 'The Unlikely Team').

Hey, imagine Ringo overdubbing Mr T! The mind boggles.

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Reply #11 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 1:26pm

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Thomas the Tank engine never was recorded in English was it? Wink Grin
 
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Reply #12 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 3:18pm

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Liverpool is still part of the UK according to the maps Charlie... mind you the locals do tend towards incomprehensibility Grin
Apparently the new voice of Thomas will be Pierce Brosnan Shocked Bond, Thomas is there no British icon safe from the disgustingly handsome Irish bloke?
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 29th, 2007 at 3:28pm
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One thing I also don't get is why they have to completely change theme tunes.

The classic
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Reply #14 - Oct 30th, 2007 at 8:53am

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My favourite gripe is US made programmes on the Discovery channel, which are then narrated for the British market by British actors, however they convert everything into METRIC despite the fact that I suspect the original American narration would be in Imperial.

I agree that these programmes are sold to the European market also .... so why not do a separate  narration for them in Metric, after all the UK has just won a case in Europe allowing us to keep our Imperial weights and measures and long may they continue.
 

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Reply #15 - Oct 30th, 2007 at 9:07am

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And then UPC (my local cable company) put all of Discovery into Hungarian and I strongly suspect the person doing the translation hasn't got a brilliant command of English, regularly they mix up hundreds and thousands, so an experienced fighter pilot has 300 hours of stick time Roll Eyes or my favourite was when a xeno-biologist working for NASA became an ex-biologist Grin
 

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Reply #16 - Oct 30th, 2007 at 6:23pm

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On thing about Bob The Builder when "translated" for the American market, it takes longer to say "Bob" than it does "The Builder".......

"Boooooooooooooooooooob, The Builder"  Grin Grin

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Reply #17 - Oct 30th, 2007 at 9:47pm

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You native Brits are never satisfied... it was our understanding that you wanted this on the British 'it list! Roll Eyes
Maybe one should not omit an H...


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Reply #18 - Oct 30th, 2007 at 10:50pm

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H wrote on Oct 30th, 2007 at 9:47pm:
You native Brits are never satisfied... it was our understanding that you wanted this on the British 'it list! Roll Eyes
Maybe one should not omit an H...


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I thought it was the French that omitted the H? 'Allo! Grin Grin
 

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Reply #19 - Nov 1st, 2007 at 1:43pm

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Maybe the producers think that American children wouldn't be able to understand a British accent. Roll Eyes I've never had trouble with it, but I know a few people who do. Once in high school I quoted Monty Python in my best Brit accent, and some girl goes "I don't speak *frinch!"

*obviously not, she couldn't even pronounce it. Of course, this is the same person who argued with the history teacher about whether or not there were two world wars. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #20 - Nov 1st, 2007 at 1:50pm

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TacitBlue wrote on Nov 1st, 2007 at 1:43pm:
Once in high school I quoted Monty Python in my best Brit accent, and some girl goes "I don't speak *frinch!"

Doesn't say a lot for your best Brit accent. Tongue Cheesy
 

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Reply #21 - Nov 1st, 2007 at 2:02pm

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You should have done the bit from Quest For The Holy Grail "Your muzzer waz a 'ampster and your fazzer smelt of elderberries" Grin
 

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