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Oct 23rd, 2007 at 3:20am

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I am trying to reduce the amount of services running in the background to allow more for running Flightsim. There are currently 59 services running but i can manually turn some off when i run fs9. The toruble is some of these services are required by other users when they are logged in. Is there a way of creating a seperate login user with minimum services running or a program that will shut off all unessential services while fs9 is running?
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Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2007 at 5:28am

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Hi FS_Pilot.
There is a freeware program called FSAutoStart which may be helpfull. I believe you can customise it to meet your requirements. Not sure about the "other user" issue.
Might be worth taking a look.

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Reply #2 - Oct 23rd, 2007 at 8:04am

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Zaphod wrote on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 5:28am:
Hi FS_Pilot.
There is a freeware program called FSAutoStart which may be helpfull. I believe you can customise it to meet your requirements. Not sure about the "other user" issue.
Might be worth taking a look.

Zaphod


...this one?...

FS Autostart...>>>

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/System-Tweak/FSAutoStart.shtml

...got to be a bit careful what you shut-down tho', if you play On-Line!... Wink...!

F...shutting down the Television... Wink...!
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 23rd, 2007 at 8:14am
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FSAutostart is a completely different story - sorry, zaphod, but reading fs_Pilot's post would have been better than flying over it... Wink

Slow computer, he? I also always kill processes before flying! Cheesy
One important thing, you have to differ between processes and services!
Processes are those you can see in your task-manager.
By googling you can get infos fur pretty sure nearly every or even all of your tasks.
You can kill many processes without any problems while others make your system crash. Google helps!
Services, however, are not tasks that are permanently blocking your RAM space.
Often, they're also integrated into tasks, as they are no independent working files.
Tasks/processes can differ from user to user depending on who is logged in.
But services who are often used to enable processes accessing hardware are already running before you log in.
So you can't disable services for one user - either enabled for all or disabled for all.
So the only thing I can suggest is, keep away from services - disabling them may kill your sys forever, if you don't know how to bring it back, but killing a process: no problem, just reboot and it's there again!
So try out killing processes with your task manager or an alternative one like "Process Explorer" (can easily be found with - again Google Grin ).

Crash!

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Reply #4 - Oct 23rd, 2007 at 10:08am

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Zaphod wrote on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 5:28am:
Hi FS_Pilot.
There is a freeware program called FSAutoStart which may be helpfull. I believe you can customise it to meet your requirements. Not sure about the "other user" issue.
Might be worth taking a look.

Zaphod


Please read NickN's take of FSAutostart before using.

Aslo see the FSX sticky for the definitive guide to tweaking your machjine for FS use.  99 Percent of it applies to ANY sim.

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Reply #5 - Oct 23rd, 2007 at 5:51pm
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JBaymore wrote on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 10:08am:
Please read NickN's take of FSAutostart before using.


Which can be found here
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 24th, 2007 at 7:30am
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best,

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best,

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Reply #7 - Oct 24th, 2007 at 9:57am

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Reply #8 - Oct 25th, 2007 at 7:32am
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remembering what????
don't know what you're talking of?!  Huh Huh

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Reply #9 - Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:40am

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Reply #10 - Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:55am

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FSAutostart has use for those who are on very restricted systems AND know what they are doing when using it


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Since he has 1280MB of RAM, FSAutostart its not going to make things better assuming he shuts down the services I outlined. -Minimum- RAM for FS9 use on Windows XP would be 768MB, 1GB (minimum) preferred. Best results is 2GB. FSAutostart really has no use if you run 1GB or more and besides, the only services that really interfere with the system are the ones I listed which get shut down if you optimize correctly anyway

Also, FSAutostart does not shut down services completely and recover the memory from them. All it does is shut down the service process. To correctly shut down a service AND recover the memory it used, you must follow my directions and shut down the service at LOGON (reboot). That is why I said the use of FSAutostart is typcially worthless. Many users also shut down things they should not with that program. It can help if you:

A: Know what you are doing
B: Have less than 768MB-1GB of RAM

otherwise, I would not mess with it.


 
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Reply #11 - Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:58am

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Does anyone know where i can get a copy of the manual or help files for FSAutostart? The Authors http://www.kensalter.com/fsautostart website has been shutdown and i would like to know how to set it up correctly before actually installing it and mucking it or my system up.
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Reply #12 - Nov 2nd, 2007 at 11:02am

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FS_Pilot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:58am:
Does anyone know where i can get a copy of the manual or help files for FSAutostart? The Authors http://www.kensalter.com/fsautostart website has been shutdown and i would like to know how to set it up correctly before actually installing it and mucking it or my system up.
FS_Pilot



Trust me, you have over 1GB of memory. Just follow my directions in the thread posted above for service shutdown and that is really all you need.

As for startup programs, (not services) that is an area you need to know what can be shut down and what can not. I can not direct you in that without knowing what is on the system and no instructions for FSAutostart will tell you that for sure either.

You can shut down startup programs temp by unchecking them under the startup tab of the system configuration utility

START - RUN - type: MSCONFIG   click OK  STARTUP TAB


reboot after and UNCHECK the warning message upon reboot


reverse proceedure to enable

 
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Reply #13 - Nov 2nd, 2007 at 11:08am

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SERVICES SHUTDOWN  

CONTROL PANEL - ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS - SERVICES  
 
Each service I list below has the exact same procedure to shutting it down CORRECTLY. All you have to do is the following to each service on the list:  
 
1. Double click the service.  
 
2. STARTUP TYPE: if it is not already disabled, change it to DISABLED, click APPLY.    
 
3. LOGON TAB: HARDWARE PROFILE BOX – double click your hardware profile and it should change the login under the SERVICE column to DISABLED, click APPLY and OK.  
 
4. Go to the next service and repeat the process  
 
Here is the list: (note: some of these may not appear in your service list)  
 
ALERTER  
CLIPBOOK  
ERROR REPORTING SERVICE  
HELP AND SUPPORT  
INDEXING SERVICES  
MESSENGER  
NETMEETING REMOTE DESKTOP SHARING  
NETWORK DDE  
NETWORK DDE DSDM  
PERFORMANCE LOGS AND ALERTS  
REMOTE REGISTRY  
ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS  
SECURITY CENTER (IT’S ONLY THE NAG, NOT SECURITY)
SYSTEM RESTORE SERVICE (Unless you want it enabled)
TELNET (SOME PROGRAMS MIGHT NEED THIS BUT I DON’T USE IT)  
 


Close the services list, reboot


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Browse to CONTROL PANEL - SYSTEM -SYSTEM RESTORE TAB:  
 
NOTE: THIS IS A SETTING YOU WILL NEED TO DECIDE ABOUT.    
 
I do not use system restore. It’s a Resource HOG. However many people use this feature and rely on it. If you use system restore and cannot live without it, SKIP THIS STEP. If you want to shut it down, here is the process:  
 
CHECK: TURN OFF SYSTEM RESTORE ON ALL DRIVES  
If any warnings pop up, just say YES and click APPLY, then OK to close the system properties.  

reboot

MY COMPUTER, right click your C drive.  

UNCHECK "allow indexing services to index this disk"...  

When the box appears select YES for ALL SUB FOLDERS AND FILES.. the process will take a while.  

Once complete repeat the same process for all the hard drives listed in MY COMPUTER.  

If it stops for some reason, click either continue or ignore for ONLY the file it stops for so it will continue the process.  

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Thats it

the rest is in shutting down startup programs (which you can do with FSAutostart) and other reg/settings tweaks FSAutostart does not deal with at all


I do not see the program giving you any benefit, at all


and some people find FSAutostart crashes on their systems... If you have 1GB or more in memory, the use of the software is benign
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 3rd, 2007 at 5:12am

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NickN, I appreciate your advice which I followed your procedure to the letter but it made little diffence. I currently have 58 processes running and i can reduce this to about 46 without any harmful effects which shows a noticable inprovement in performance. for Eg: there are 9 instances of svchost.exe running. Some of the examples i shutdown are ipod, Real player schedualer, acronis & oodefrag. It is a pain in the butt having to do it manually each time i want to run FSX or fs9. I was reading somewhere that you can setup a computer profile to run with minimum services and processes but i forgot where i seen it.
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