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Jan 10th, 2007 at 10:35am

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Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2007 at 10:54am

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Very good quality footage. However, I doubt any of the four chaps around the first vehicle eliminated or the others killed in the video would consider it "great" (even though they probably were terrorists/insurgents).

To quote Col Tim Collins, on the even of the 2003 invasion,

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"Wipe them out if that is what they choose, but if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory"


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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2007 at 4:33pm

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Here is another good one here
 

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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2007 at 5:21pm

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Charlie wrote on Jan 10th, 2007 at 10:54am:
However, I doubt any of the four chaps around the first vehicle eliminated or the others killed in the video would consider it "great" (even though they probably were terrorists/insurgents).


Put into context, that's a far better way to go than to have your head drilled into or to have your head carved off, which seems to be a preferred way the terrorists deal with their captives.  Context is a word often overlooked when people criticise events over there.
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2007 at 5:35pm

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We had an AC-130 Gunship open fire on a target close to here one night during a firefight. I'll never forget the sound it made...
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2007 at 8:38pm

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Good intel, good shooting, and some fine flying there... watching this it's easy to forget this is a huge multi turboprop, not a helicopter...  Cool
 

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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2007 at 8:59pm

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matt2190 wrote on Jan 10th, 2007 at 4:33pm:
Here is another good one here



i think that was an apache, graphic but good footage.
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2007 at 12:06pm

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dcunning30 wrote on Jan 10th, 2007 at 5:21pm:
Charlie wrote on Jan 10th, 2007 at 10:54am:
However, I doubt any of the four chaps around the first vehicle eliminated or the others killed in the video would consider it "great" (even though they probably were terrorists/insurgents).


Put into context, that's a far better way to go than to have your head drilled into or to have your head carved off, which seems to be a preferred way the terrorists deal with their captives.  Context is a word often overlooked when people criticise events over there.


Indeed, I could agree with you more there. I wasn't criticising events over there at all (if you knew my prefession, which a few forum members do, you would understand that I wouldn't), and this video is a very good example of a military team doing there job exactly as trained. I was merely questioning whether one really would want to label a video which clearly shows anyone's life being taken (whoever it is), as "great". They are all human.

For instance, Saddam Hussein. One of the most evil men the world has seen in recent history. He deserved his punishment, despite what some anti-capital punishment government (shame on certain members of the UK government for not respecting the Iraqi justice system and their freedom of choice to choose the punishment), yet I would not describe any video of his exectution as being "great".
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2007 at 2:41pm

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Charlie,  I understand you.

Thanks for the reply.
 

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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2007 at 2:43pm

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dcunning30 wrote on Jan 11th, 2007 at 2:41pm:
Charlie,  I understand you.

Thanks for the reply.


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Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2007 at 6:18pm

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Charlie wrote on Jan 11th, 2007 at 12:06pm:
dcunning30 wrote on Jan 10th, 2007 at 5:21pm:
Charlie wrote on Jan 10th, 2007 at 10:54am:
However, I doubt any of the four chaps around the first vehicle eliminated or the others killed in the video would consider it "great" (even though they probably were terrorists/insurgents).


Put into context, that's a far better way to go than to have your head drilled into or to have your head carved off, which seems to be a preferred way the terrorists deal with their captives.  Context is a word often overlooked when people criticise events over there.


Indeed, I could agree with you more there. I wasn't criticising events over there at all (if you knew my prefession, which a few forum members do, you would understand that I wouldn't), and this video is a very good example of a military team doing there job exactly as trained. I was merely questioning whether one really would want to label a video which clearly shows anyone's life being taken (whoever it is), as "great". They are all human.

For instance, Saddam Hussein. One of the most evil men the world has seen in recent history. He deserved his punishment, despite what some anti-capital punishment government (shame on certain members of the UK government for not respecting the Iraqi justice system and their freedom of choice to choose the punishment), yet I would not describe any video of his exectution as being "great".



i understand to, will reword my posts next time if nessesary
 

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Reply #11 - Jan 11th, 2007 at 9:35pm

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I'm impressed by the professionalism the soldiers display.  Actually I've been watching a lot of Iraq conflict stuff on TV and am continually impressed by that same professionalism.  It's a morbid job and war is ugly, but there are heros out there...
 
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Reply #12 - Jan 12th, 2007 at 8:20am

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Chris_F wrote on Jan 11th, 2007 at 9:35pm:
I'm impressed by the professionalism the soldiers display.  Actually I've been watching a lot of Iraq conflict stuff on TV and am continually impressed by that same professionalism.  It's a morbid job and war is ugly, but there are heros out there...



Quite, and they have to do that in whatever situation they are in. There is a lot of anti-Iraq/A-ghan press and public feeling on both sides of the altantic, yet soldiers, sailors and airmen will do their job regardless. There's an excellent example of how out of touch the general population are with the military "ethos" on this side of the atlantic over at PPrune at the mo - a Brit (who was informed late last year he would be going abroad at short notice for a tour of ops in wherever) being amazed that his friends were asking him why he hadn't just said "No". Some people just have no concept of what working in the military is all about... Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 12th, 2007 at 10:54am

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Charlie wrote on Jan 12th, 2007 at 8:20am:
Chris_F wrote on Jan 11th, 2007 at 9:35pm:
I'm impressed by the professionalism the soldiers display.  Actually I've been watching a lot of Iraq conflict stuff on TV and am continually impressed by that same professionalism.  It's a morbid job and war is ugly, but there are heros out there...



Quite, and they have to do that in whatever situation they are in. There is a lot of anti-Iraq/A-ghan press and public feeling on both sides of the altantic, yet soldiers, sailors and airmen will do their job regardless. There's an excellent example of how out of touch the general population are with the military "ethos" on this side of the atlantic over at PPrune at the mo - a Brit (who was informed late last year he would be going abroad at short notice for a tour of ops in wherever) being amazed that his friends were asking him why he hadn't just said "No". Some people just have no concept of what working in the military is all about... Roll Eyes

There's a show that airs on the Discovery Military channel in the US called Iraq Diaries.  They follow a platoon of Marines during their daily lives in some of the high conflict areas of Iraq.  I think everyone should catch at least one episode of that show to see what our soldiers are really dealing with over there and the amazing skill and professionalism they display in such a foreboding environment, and the good stuff they do for the populace is in stark contrast to the images displayed by the mainstream media (granted I'm sure the footage shown is edited to be intentionally positive).  The Abu Grave stuff gets headlines, but really it's the day to day that deserves all that attention.
 
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