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Dec 15th, 2006 at 10:14am

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Hi need some clarifications please
Bios setting for video card:
reads: Primary video adaptor reads = Auto.
should it not read EXT PVIE Graphics (PEG) ???

Ram
bios says it is 667 Mhz
analizer says it is PC2 5300 (333MHZ) Corsair
question which is it?

Ram Timings.
timing freq.  329.42
FSB DRAM  4:5
Cas Lat    5.0 Clocks
RAS Cas  5
RAS PRE  5
Cycle time 15
Bank cycle time 21 clocks
are those timings good or can they be improved upon??

Mobo D975BX
chipset i975x
socket 775LAG
Intel conroe E6600
duo 2  2.4MHZ
is that good and can the speed be improved upon ??
if so how, please

thanks guys for the info
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 11:59am

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DDR2 =  Dual Data Rate. 333mhz @ DDR2 = 667mhz.

Automatic GPU selection, works fine.

Timings not too bad. Not sure why you've got the 4:5 divider there. Get rid of it Wink Cool

Last section is just your spec. 2.4Ghz not Mhz Wink If you want me to state an improvement, overclock it! (Also the P965 chipset would better suit the E6600).

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Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 12:16pm

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thanks for your quick response.

yes improvements please

How do i get rid of the divider and what do i replace it with??
can timing be improved for better performance? if so how!

how do i overclock. step by step would be good to receive.


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Reply #3 - Dec 15th, 2006 at 2:15pm

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For overclocking... see your other thread Wink

Divider should be changed to 1:1... not sure how to do that on your motherboard.

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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 4:52am

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GeForce wrote on Dec 15th, 2006 at 11:59am:
(Also the P965 chipset would better suit the E6600).

Jon Cool


Why?
 

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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 5:04am

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michaelmichael wrote on Dec 15th, 2006 at 10:14am:
Hi need some clarifications please
Bios setting for video card:
reads: Primary video adaptor reads = Auto.
should it not read EXT PVIE Graphics (PEG) ???

Ram
bios says it is 667 Mhz
analizer says it is PC2 5300 (333MHZ) Corsair
question which is it?

Ram Timings.
timing freq.  329.42
FSB DRAM  4:5
Cas Lat    5.0 Clocks
RAS Cas  5
RAS PRE  5
Cycle time 15
Bank cycle time 21 clocks
are those timings good or can they be improved upon??

Mobo D975BX
chipset i975x
socket 775LAG
Intel conroe E6600
duo 2  2.4MHZ
is that good and can the speed be improved upon ??
if so how, please

thanks guys for the info


I like to set all my bios options up manually, so, yes, you could put the Primary video adaptor to EXT PCIe Graphics (PEG).


"Ram
bios says it is 667 Mhz
analizer says it is PC2 5300 (333MHZ) Corsair
question which is it?"

It is both. DDR = Double Data Rate 333 x 2 = 667mhz = PC5300


"are those timings good or can they be improved upon??"

That depends on your ram, you could try to lower the timings but what would you set them to? You would need to do a lot of time consuming  and frustrating testing to find out. However, if you will please risk a boot failure and CMOS reset, set the timings to 4-4-4-12 and do some stability testing with the appropriate software.




 

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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 5:09am

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GeForce wrote on Dec 15th, 2006 at 2:15pm:
Divider should be changed to 1:1... not sure how to do that on your motherboard.

Jon Cool



The divider setting coupled with the cpu and mainboard's limitation is going to determine the max overclock you can get. Setting a divder of 1:1 won't get you very far in the overclock with that ram.
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 2:15pm

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congo wrote on Dec 16th, 2006 at 4:52am:
GeForce wrote on Dec 15th, 2006 at 11:59am:
(Also the P965 chipset would better suit the E6600).

Jon Cool


Why?


They just do apparently. The 965 can hit higher FSBs, which is where Conroe systems conk out. The chipset usually dies on FSB before the CPU dies on clock speed.

When I recommended the 1:1 divided I was talking about his system in its current state: ie. not overclocked. In a stock-clock system, there's no need for the divider.

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Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 4:28am

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Are you sure you have your information right, Everything I've read so far points to the fact that the best conroe overclockers were the 975X boards. But I could be behind the times, as far as Iknew it was the 975's that were giving up the 4ghz overclocks, not the 965's.

Not only that, the 975's are typically a lot less trouble to work with and have a lot more features THAT WORK without the dramas of the newer chipset. Like  I said though, I haven't studied those chipsets for a month or two, so I may have missed the latest reports as the 965 chipset matures........

Another thing GeForce, even if you are right, which you probably are, you are probably talking about the difference of just a few mhz, ie. clockspeeds attained by the very best overclockers in the game with the best ram and other components available..... at a cost mind you.

The average Joe is not going to see any difference between the two chipsets other than features and functionality.

The average overclocker will see no differences either, it's only the top echelon players who will make any advantage out of either one, but the 965 will NEVER support 2 x PCIe cards in it's single PCIex16 slot, so the 965 is always at a serious disadvantage in a full blown gaming machine with Crossfire configuration.
 

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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 7:47am

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congo wrote on Dec 17th, 2006 at 4:28am:
AAnother thing GeForce, even if you are right, which you probably are, you are probably talking about the difference of just a few mhz, ie. clockspeeds attained by the very best overclockers in the game with the best ram and other components available..... at a cost mind you.


Oh I definitely agree. There's almost no difference, but from what I've heard the 965s seem to be hitting slightly higher FSBs than the 975X counterparts. But I agree that the difference is minimal, and of course not worth an upgrade for the extra few Mhz.

The disadvantages of the 975X are that is doesn't support DDR2-800 and it has the ICH7R southbridge, which is not as good as the ICH8 of the P965.

I'm only going on what I've read on forums etc, as I don't have an Intel system myself.

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Reply #10 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 8:09pm

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GeForce wrote on Dec 17th, 2006 at 7:47am:
Oh I definitely agree. There's almost no difference, but from what I've heard the 965s seem to be hitting slightly higher FSBs than the 975X counterparts. But I agree that the difference is minimal, and of course not worth an upgrade for the extra few Mhz.

The disadvantages of the 975X are that is doesn't support DDR2-800 and it has the ICH7R southbridge, which is not as good as the ICH8 of the P965.

I'm only going on what I've read on forums etc, as I don't have an Intel system myself.

Jon Cool



As far as I was aware the Asus P5WDH (975X) was the first mainboard to consistently get 4ghz overclocks on Conroe.

The 975X most certainly does support 800mhz ram and higher. It's Southbridge supports 1 less SATA port (3 instead of 4) but it has PATA (IDE) support where the 965 chipset's Southbridge does not, so while being trendy, the 965 simply reduces practical functions rather than adds them.

Suffice to say that the 975X boards are preferable in many ways, and this is reflected by their high cost in comparison to boards based  on the 965 chipset. You'll find that many 975x based boards are premium products with lots of extras thrown in for good measure, such as dual raid controllers, better sound chips, crossfire support, more IDE and SATA2 channels, WIFI connectivity, etc.

You read all kinds of crap in forums, I'm guilty myself of repeating mis-information, however, I did research the 965 and 975X chipsets extrensively for my own reasons, and to bag the 975X boards as second rate is a mistake.
 

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