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Dec 13th, 2006 at 10:31am

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just got an e6600 not to happy wiuth the speed playing gothic3.  how do i overclock it. also my ram is

Field      Value
CPU Properties      
CPU Type      Unknown
CPUID CPU Name      Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
CPUID Revision      000006F6h
     
CPU Speed      
CPU Clock      2399.86 MHz  (original: 2400 MHz)
CPU Multiplier      11.5x
CPU FSB      208.68 MHz
     
CPU Cache      
L1 Code Cache      32 KB
L1 Data Cache      32 KB
L2 Cache      4 MB  (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)
     
Motherboard Properties      
Motherboard ID      BX97510J.86A.1304.2006.0620.1451
Motherboard Name      Unknown
     
SPD Memory Modules      
DIMM1      1 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM  (5.0-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz)  (4.0-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)  (3.0-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM3      1 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM  (5.0-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz)  (4.0-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)  (3.0-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
     
BIOS Properties      
System BIOS Date      06/20/06
Video BIOS Date      04/24/06
DMI BIOS Version      BX97510J.86A.1304.2006.0620.1451

how do i overclock both cpu and RAM


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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 11:04am

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I swear the E6600's multiplier is locked at 9?

Have I missed something?

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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 1:06pm

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thanks  now what do i do???
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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 2:19pm

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Well as far as I know the multiplier should be at 9 (11.5x impossible because it's locked) and the FSB should be at 266.

I think I'm being stupid here... can someone see something I can't?

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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 4:49am

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michaelmichael wrote on Dec 13th, 2006 at 10:31am:
 how do i overclock


That information is strictly classified. You won't find ANYTHING written anywhere on the web about it.

You'll have to study your PC's architecture and figure it out like the rest of us  Cool

Your game not running smooth has nothing to do with your cpu and ram clocks, unless of course these new core 2 duos are nothing more than an expensive joke.

You have other issues, you should probably sort those out before complicating matters further.
 

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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 5:20am

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GeForce wrote on Dec 13th, 2006 at 2:19pm:
Well as far as I know the multiplier should be at 9 (11.5x impossible because it's locked) and the FSB should be at 266.

I think I'm being stupid here... can someone see something I can't?

Jon Cool



I thought even the engineering samples had locked multi's, more likely the diagnostic software mic is using is whacked. Pity it's not true lol, if it was, his PC would be worth a fortune on overclockers.com muahahaha  Cool

Overclocking a conroe is dead easy, you just set a lower mem divider and wind up the FSB. When it dies, up the voltage a tiny bit while monitoring the temps and you'll push it up to the mainboard's limit if the ram can handle the speed with the correct divider. This is why overclockers say to get PC6400 for o/cíng conroes.

Actually, the process is complex and you need to fully understand the system to appreciate it, but in practice, it can be accomplished with a few bios changes.
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2006 at 3:58pm

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Thanks for all the answers guys.

my sytem is an OEM rig and the bios are scanty to say the least. the only thing i can see is changing the speed/timing on the RAM it is now 5 5 5 15 also the voltage is changeable but very limmited

you guys know how to unlock a OEM bios on my system??


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Reply #7 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 4:46am

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Firstly, you need to find out what kind of a computer you actually have and what it is capable of, I already know quite a bit about it by the bios signature, but I need more info.

When you figure it out, post back your mainboard ID, (this is quite specific, right down to the revision number if specified) and a link to it's manual so we can help you. Opening up the case may reveal the board's ID written onto it.

What you need to find out is the chipset it uses and what that chipset means in terms of capability and flexibility.

Usually, you'll find that OEM's have special OEM bios's which are useless. However, this may not be the case.

Some newer OEM's have REAL motherboards and bios's, just because you don't see the options in BIOS does not mean they are not there. Some OEM boards use special keypresses to unlock the hidden advanced bios, so kids and fools don't blow up Daddy's PC.

For anyone else who happens upon this page, this should serve as a warning to you why it is important to construct your PC's starting with the mainboard, which should be carefully researched and understood prior to purchase, as it determines the PC's potential.
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 10:39am

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Thanks for the info.

Does this help


CPU-Z 1.38 report file

Processor(s)   

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 1 (max 2) per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Code Name Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.6
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2370.6 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 263.4 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1053.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Chipset & Memory   

Northbridge Intel i975X rev. 00
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7) rev. 01
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Memory Frequency 329.2 MHz (4:5)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 21 clocks

System   

System Manufacturer   
System Name   
System S/N   
Mainboard Vendor Intel Corporation
Mainboard Model D975XBX
BIOS Vendor Intel Corp.
BIOS Version BX97510J.86A.1304.2006.0620.1451
BIOS Date 06/20/2006

Memory SPD   

Module 1 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair
Module 3 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair
Module 4 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair

Software   

Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) 
DirectX Version 9.0c

also the Model for ther mobo is D975XBX  AAD27094-305

Additionally I was wandering if i could Flash the bios with one of the other bios manufactures  such as:

Award, Phoenic, American Megatrend and /or MR biods.???

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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 7:33pm

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You cannot flash with another bios, if you try something like that and somehow manage to stuff your bios, you may as well throw the PC in the garbage can.

There is a bios update available for you board which is a few versions in advance of the one installed on it now, it fixes a multitude of issues.

I cannot find a link to your manual so I can't help you find the options in bios you need.


Interstingly, the new bios supports some kind of microsoft oem registration (probably for Vista) so it looks as if Intel and M$ might be in bed at the bios level to prevent windows Vista from being illegally used. Very interesting! Whether the function is being used or not, I do not know.
 

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Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 7:53pm

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I found the product guide and the board has a jumper setting for maintainence mode, this is most likely the place where you will find the advanced settings. I think the settings will be limited but I'm not sure. The maintainence mode jumper is set to pins 2-3 for maintainence mode, read your guide.
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 9:05pm
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hmmmmm


Assuming there are BIOS settings available it looks like we are running mixed memory modules which will most likely hinder any attempt to performance clock the system. The lower spec modules will most likely peter out and force the system to restrict clocks that may add to any real performance gains.

Real perofrmance comes from a balance between the CPU and memory bus, not just a CPU boot speed

Just because a CPU boots and runs 3.6gig does not mean that system is going to boost real world applications. The memory buss must also be able to keep up with any enhanced CPU settings or the increase is typically null.

Its going to come down to the BIOS and how much control is available to the user.


 
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Reply #12 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 7:45pm

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I don't follow, NickN how can you tell he has mixed modules? Also, in seperate reports, the memory is reported differently, in the first, as 2 x 1gb modules, in the second, as 4 x 1gb modules.
 

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Reply #13 - Dec 19th, 2006 at 1:29am
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congo wrote on Dec 18th, 2006 at 7:45pm:
I don't follow, NickN how can you tell he has mixed modules? Also, in seperate reports, the memory is reported differently, in the first, as 2 x 1gb modules, in the second, as 4 x 1gb modules.



Oh gezz   Grin


I had 3 thread windows open including this one and somehow ended up responding in this one based on another read. I think part of my mixup was seeing 2 modules in the first post and 4 in the last however I remember thinking that he must have added memory or the initial report was incomplete.

and I still ended up confusing 2 subjects and answering the wrong thread anyway  Cheesy


I have to get acclimated to a 24 inch screen. I like being able to multitask but it does take some getting use to.  

Smiley    


He's good to go... he just needs BIOS access




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Reply #14 - Dec 19th, 2006 at 9:54am

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thanks guys for all the info.  yes i now have 4 g;s of corsair ram 667mhz.

looks like i'll have to talk to the OEM here in Canada to give be access to a better set of Bios. than what i have. i can only get to the ram speed /voltage and timing.  but if i drop the timing the ram becomes 500mhz or something . that seems counterproductive.

I'll try to keep you guys posted regarding how the OEM reacts to my request to unlock the bios.

your comments re my ram speed thought would be appreciated.

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Reply #15 - Dec 19th, 2006 at 1:17pm

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The system is automatically setting your ram speed because you tweaked the timings, you need a bios/motherboard that allows you to set all speeds manually.
 

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