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Dec 12th, 2006 at 4:24pm

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I will be getting my license in 8 days, and hoping to have a car by then or shortly thereafter. At the moment I'm looking at a 1996 Eagle Talon ES, 1994 Pontiac Grand Prix SE, 1995 Oldsmobile Cutlass, and a 1994 Chevy Baretta.
Does anyone know anything about the reliability and characteristics of the cars? I'm leaning towards the Talon because it's the only one with driver, passenger, and side bags, it looks so damn cool, and it only has a 4 cylinder, so i will save money on insurance (God knows I'll be paying out the arse for insurance on a coupe in New Jersey as a 17 year old male...) and gas.

 
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Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 5:37pm

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From the list, I would be leaning toward either the Talon or the Grand Prix. All are good cars, but I would make the descision based on the condition of the actual car you are going to buy (not the model).
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 8:12pm

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Defenitely go with your own taste of car AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN IMPORT.
(taking it you're american) Wink

So sad to see american car companies suffering Cry Cry

                         
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Reply #3 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 9:45pm

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If American car companies are suffering from foreign imports then clearly they are not making the cars the public wants. Maybe if they made a small, economical city car then they might have some success.
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:17pm

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Giteen wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 8:12pm:
Defenitely go with your own taste of car AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN IMPORT.
(taking it you're american) Wink

So sad to see american car companies suffering Cry Cry

                        
Angry
NO TOYOTA
Angry                                                         
Angry
NO HONDA
Angry                                    
Angry
NO NISSAN
Angry                                    
Angry
NO SUBARU
Angry
Angry
NO SUZUKI
Angry
Angry
NO MAZDA
Angry
Angry
NO LEXUS
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CHEVY
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Jaguar may be owned by Ford, but it is as American as a Spitfire Angry

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Reply #5 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:48pm

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Woodlouse2002 wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 9:45pm:
If American car companies are suffering from foreign imports then clearly they are not making the cars the public wants. Maybe if they made a small, economical city car then they might have some success.


To this, I agree.  American car companies have shown to make an attempt at this, but its not seeming to catch on.  For instance, GM's new 100,000 mile warranty has taken roost.  Ford Motor Company has just cashed in ALL of there north american assets in order to fund there turn-around program.  If this fails, they are gone. (from the US at least)


expat wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:17pm:
Jaguar may be owned by Ford, but it is as American as a Spitfire Angry

Matt



Hmm...  People do have different views.  My grandfather owns a Jag.  Very nice car, comfortable, can't even feel the roads. And...       ITS FAST Grin Grin

Realy though, what's wrong with Jaguar??  I believe, as much as I may disagree with any topic, that a person deserves to be listened to.  Sooo.. ?
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:50pm

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Remember one thing, the Eagle Talon is a nice looking car but, Check to make sure parts are easily available since Eagle is no longer and also if it shares part with another car.  I think some other car company made the Talon for Eagle.

  Grand Prix    O.K.
  Cutlass         O.K.
  Stay away from the Beretta - Not a reliable car!!!
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:51pm

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Woodlouse2002 wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 9:45pm:
If American car companies are suffering from foreign imports then clearly they are not making the cars the public wants. Maybe if they made a small, economical city car then they might have some success.


To this, I agree.  American car companies have shown to make an attempt at this, but its not seeming to catch on.  For instance, GM's new 100,000 mile warranty has taken roost.  Ford Motor Company has just cashed in ALL of there north american assets in order to fund there turn-around program.  If this fails, they are gone. (from the US at least)


expat wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:17pm:
Jaguar may be owned by Ford, but it is as American as a Spitfire Angry

Matt



Hmm...  People do have different views.  My grandfather owns a Jag.  Very nice car, comfortable, can't even feel the roads. And...       ITS FAST Grin Grin

Realy though, what's wrong with Jaguar??  I believe, as much as I may disagree with a topic, that a person deserves to be listened to.  Sooo.. ?


P.S.  Sorry elite,  for dragging this post off topic!
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 1:45am

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Giteen wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 8:12pm:
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While I do share your feelings about buying American cars, I feel the need to point out that Mazda is owned by Ford...so if you consider a Jaguar an American car (also owned by Ford) you should probably throw Mazda in there too.  They do still have that "tinny" feel that many imports have, but they are owned by Ford.
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 2:32am

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It's basically impossible to buy a purely American car anymore. The Corvette may be the exception? Chevrolet partnered with Toyota as far back as the 80's. Ford has had ties with Mitsubishi and others. The Ford Courier pickup was manufactured in and imported from Japan by a company I never heard of. Chrysler has ties with both German & Japanese automakers. Blah, blah, blah...................

Just have all vehicles you are interested in checked over by a reputable mechanic and do your homework. I'll take reliability and affordability over status any day.  Wink
 

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Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 5:40am

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Giteen wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 8:12pm:
Defenitely go with your own taste of car AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN IMPORT.
(taking it you're american) Wink

So sad to see american car companies suffering Cry Cry

He is buying used so. . . Roll Eyes . . .Plus all those cars are technically from American companies

Willit Run wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:50pm:
  Remember one thing, the Eagle Talon is a nice looking car but, Check to make sure parts are easily available since Eagle is no longer and also if it shares part with another car.  I think some other car company made the Talon for Eagle.
It is a DSM, so a it is a Plymouth/Mitsubishi
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 6:03am

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Giteen wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:51pm:
Woodlouse2002 wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 9:45pm:
If American car companies are suffering from foreign imports then clearly they are not making the cars the public wants. Maybe if they made a small, economical city car then they might have some success.



expat wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:17pm:
Jaguar may be owned by Ford, but it is as American as a Spitfire Angry

Matt



Hmm...  People do have different views.  My grandfather owns a Jag.  Very nice car, comfortable, can't even feel the roads. And...       ITS FAST Grin Grin

Realy though, what's wrong with Jaguar??  I believe, as much as I may disagree with a topic, that a person deserves to be listened to.  Sooo.. ?


P.S.  Sorry elite,  for dragging this post off topic!




Nothing is wrong with a Jag, I only pointed out that it was not American as listed in the original list of American cars to buy.

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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 5:07pm

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Although I would normally agree with you Giteen, it is my first car, and as I only have $2-3000 to work with, I'm buying whatever kind of car I find that looks good and runs well, and is reliable, be it a Ford or a Datsun.
I'll be visiting my father's favored mechanic soon as he sells used cars as well. Looking at a 93 Acura and an 88 Tempo. Probably won't buy the Tempo because my dad doesn't like the idea of no air bags. Still need to get down to My First Car to look at that Talon though.
 
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Reply #13 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 7:48pm

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elite marksman wrote on Dec 13th, 2006 at 5:07pm:
Probably won't buy the Tempo because my dad doesn't like the idea of no air bags.


Just a bit of advice, airbags or not...thos old Tempo's are junk.  My family has a 1989 Ford Tempo and...although reliable so far, it truly is a piece of crap.  If you have $2-$3000 to play with, you can get a much better car than that I'm sure.
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 13th, 2006 at 8:51pm
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Giteen wrote on Dec 12th, 2006 at 8:12pm:
Defenitely go with your own taste of car AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN IMPORT.
(taking it you're american) Wink

So sad to see american car companies suffering Cry Cry

                        
Angry
NO TOYOTA
Angry                                                         
Angry
NO HONDA
Angry                                    
Angry
NO NISSAN
Angry                                    
Angry
NO SUBARU
Angry
Angry
NO SUZUKI
Angry
Angry
NO MAZDA
Angry
Angry
NO LEXUS
Angry

Subtitute for:

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FORD
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LINCOLN
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MERCURY
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Smiley
JAGUAR
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Smiley
GENERAL MOTORS
Smiley
Smiley
CHEVY
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PONTAIC
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Smiley
BUICK
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CHRYSLER
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Smiley
CADALAC
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  MANY MORE ETC.

End of political/economic rank rant


...I feel better                                                    .. CHRISTMAS COLORS!  Cheesy

P.S.- I'm not racist against the japanese, I just have a lovely hard conservative thought about their cars! Grin


You know that "Japanese" cars are manufactured in North America? I don't know how you can classify cars made in the USA or Canada as imports. Also, some of those "Japanese" companies use more "American" parts than "American" companies. For example, Ford uses a lot of parts from Mexico. So, you might be supporting the American economy more by buying a Toyota rather than a Ford. You never know until you do some research, you can't jump to conclusions like that based on such superficial observations.
 
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