Simviation Forum - KEWR taxiway landing: a different view

Nov 1^st, 2006 at 12:00am

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Posted by a pilot on the AOPA board; gives one pause:

There is NO approach Procedure into 29 at all

I fly into Newark 4 nights a week.

The tower keeps the runway lights SOOOOOO low that it is almost impossible to see the runways untill you are 1/2 mile out.

The only way I can tell them apart is by looking for the VASIs on 4/22 or the runway end lights on 11/29

The worst is when they are landing 22 & they put me on the ILS 11 circle to land 22. even after 100 landings there, I still sweat that one and my vision is perfect.

The taxiways are lit brighter than the runways. I am supprised that it doesn't happen everyday

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Reply #1 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 3:39am

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Interesting, but these things always come out after the fact. There are enough ways to highlight these problems from a pilot point of view, unions, company reps, anonymous hot lines to FAA if you feel the need. Why, when it would seem that this is a known problem at this airport do we ALWAYS wait for a near miss or accident before action, if any at all is taken?

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Reply #2 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 5:26pm

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you can complain your way out of a job about unsafe conditions nothing is ever done about it until an incident happens.

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Reply #3 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 5:57pm

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Interesting, but these things always come out after the fact. There are enough ways to highlight these problems from a pilot point of view, unions, company reps, anonymous hot lines to FAA if you feel the need. Why, when it would seem that this is a known problem at this airport do we ALWAYS wait for a near miss or accident before action, if any at all is taken?

Matt

Possible cause if it ain't broke then don't fix it. And how do you tell if it's broke?

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Reply #4 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 7:00pm

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Possible cause if it ain't broke then don't fix it. And how do you tell if it's broke?

My guess would be FMEA, Failure Modes and Effects Analysis. It's pretty popular in this kind of industry/application.

I understand there's a more pressing taxiway/runway issue at one of the Seatle airports. There landing on the taxiway seems frighteningly common.

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