Search the archive:
 YaBB - Yet another Bulletin Board
 
   
 
  Simviation Forum › Current Flight Simulator Series › Flight Simulator X › Space
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
Space (Read 1654 times)
Oct 24th, 2006 at 4:43pm

Ravang   Ex Member

Gender: male
 ***
 
As you probably know FSX does have space in it if you click on the map button and type in 99999999 (8, 9's) you will be as high as the sim will let you go. But the bad news you can not controll your aircraft and the engines shutdown and will not restart, my question is this have the crap do you make aircraft controllable in space in the sim? I tried in a Star Wars fighter and no luck at all, then in the Baron worst. Grin
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 4:46pm

KDSM   Offline
Colonel
SimV Forum Flyer

Gender: male
 Posts: 1340
 *****
 
The sim is modelling aircraft in space correctly
 
...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 4:47pm

Hagar   Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica

Posts: 33159
 *****
 
If you want a space simulator I suggest you try Orbiter. The best part is that it's free. http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html
 
...

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group

Need help? Try Grumpy's Lair

My photo gallery
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 5:19pm

pepper_airborne   Offline
Colonel
Voorhout - The Netherlands

Posts: 2390
 *****
 
Because there is no, or to thin are to carry the aircraft, it will fall down.
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 5:49pm

flyboy 28   Offline
Colonel
Jacksonville, FL

Posts: 13323
 *****
 
Conventional airplanes need air to create lift. In case you haven't noticed, space has no air. Tongue
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #5 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 6:10pm

vololiberista   Offline
Colonel
Vieni in Italia

Posts: 1042
 *****
 
Quite why you want to fly a/c at impossible altitudes is beyond me. Space is for spacecraft. So get a space sim.
Vololiberista
 
Andiamo in Italia&&...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #6 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 6:35pm

Fozzer   Offline
Colonel
An elderly FS 2004 addict!
Hereford. England. EGBS.

Posts: 24861
 *****
 
The Carburettors feeding the engines in my Beech Baron thrive on fresh air...Wink...!

...and there's not a lot of that up in space... Cry...!

Paul... Grin...!
 
Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #7 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 7:08pm

Ravang   Ex Member

Gender: male
 ***
 
No,no,no I just was wondering if it was possible to make an X-15, or other high alt. fighters that could be controllable at that high, well maybe not at 9999999ft. up but just barly outside the earth. I'm not talking about a space sim here. And yes i know how an airplane flys thank you very much Undecided (I should being a Ret. RAF pilot) Tongue
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #8 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 10:59pm

Daube   Offline
Colonel
Alternative bloomer
Nice (FR)

Gender: male
 Posts: 5833
 *****
 
Quote:
Quite why you want to fly a/c at impossible altitudes is beyond me. Space is for spacecraft. So get a space sim.
Vololiberista

And because spacrafts can fly, there are welcome in a flight sim. And remember, space flight IS flight, just exactely the same flight as with your everyday plane.
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #9 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 11:04pm

Katahu   Offline
Colonel

Gender: male
 Posts: 6920
 *****
 
Quote:
And remember, space flight IS flight, just exactely the same flight as with your everyday plane.


Except there's no atmosphere for your engines to breathe, RCS controls are needed as the wings are useless in a hard-vaccum environment, and you need a nacigational computer to help you calculation tragectories unless your brainy enough to calculate the path in your head. Grin
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #10 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 11:10pm

Daube   Offline
Colonel
Alternative bloomer
Nice (FR)

Gender: male
 Posts: 5833
 *****
 
Quote:
Except there's no atmosphere for your engines to breathe, RCS controls are needed as the wings are useless in a hard-vaccum environment, and you need a nacigational computer to help you calculation tragectories unless your brainy enough to calculate the path in your head. Grin


Yes, but still this is normal flight Smiley
On a physics point of view, nothing new, just some parameters changes, like gaz density, thrust and so.
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #11 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:18am

vololiberista   Offline
Colonel
Vieni in Italia

Posts: 1042
 *****
 
Quote:
And because spacrafts can fly, there are welcome in a flight sim. And remember, space flight IS flight, just exactely the same flight as with your everyday plane.
  Yes, but still this is normal flight
On a physics point of view, nothing new, just some parameters changes, like gaz density, thrust and so.
   


Sorry you're wrong! Space craft don't fly!! They are projectiles. They DO NOT have "Normal flight" as you say. They follow parabolic trajectories and are entirely dependant on the thrust input which only increases the angle of the trajectory which in space and here on Earth is influenced by gravity. THEY DO NOT FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vololiberista
 
Andiamo in Italia&&...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #12 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:28am

Daube   Offline
Colonel
Alternative bloomer
Nice (FR)

Gender: male
 Posts: 5833
 *****
 
Quote:
Sorry you're wrong! Space craft don't fly!! They are projectiles. They DO NOT have "Normal flight" as you say. They follow parabolic trajectories and are entirely dependant on the thrust input which only increases the angle of the trajectory which in space and here on Earth is influence by gravity. THEY DO NOT FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vololiberista


EXACTELY like a normal plane in atmosphere, excepted that this projectile receives some drag from the gaz.
I'm talking about the physics point of view, or the "flight model" if you prefer.

Space flight is exactly like atmosphere flight, but the forces induced by the surrounding gaz are then inexistent, and have to be replaced by engines thrust.

That means that you don't need a spacesim to do space flight.

A flight sim that does not simulated space flight is incomplete. A Spacesim that does not simulate atmosphere flight is incomplete. We already had a discussion about that on another topic.
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #13 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 3:30am

vololiberista   Offline
Colonel
Vieni in Italia

Posts: 1042
 *****
 
Quote:
EXACTELY like a normal plane in atmosphere, excepted that this projectile receives some drag from the gaz.
I'm talking about the physics point of view, or the "flight model" if you prefer.

Space flight is exactly like atmosphere flight, but the forces induced by the surrounding gaz are then inexistent, and have to be replaced by engines thrust.

That means that you don't need a spacesim to do space flight.

A flight sim that does not simulated space flight is incomplete. A Spacesim that does not simulate atmosphere flight is incomplete. We already had a discussion about that on another topic.


WRONG AGAIN!!!  I suggest that you read up on aerodynamics and ballistics before questioning the sciences. Projectiles and space craft are affected by the friction of the air and gravity. They ARE NOT aircraft and follow ballistic science NOT aerodynamic OK!!!!!
 
Andiamo in Italia&&...
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 3:50am

Ashar   Ex Member
Forza Lazio!!

Gender: male
 *****
 
Quote:
Conventional airplanes need air to create lift. In case you haven't noticed, space has no air. Tongue


This just made my day Grin Grin
 
Back to top 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
  « Home ‹ Board Top of this page

Simviation Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5 AE!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.

Valid RSS Valid XHTML Valid CSS Powered by Perl Source Forge