Ahhhh

So they build the product up, take your money....... and then tell you there are actually serious problems with it but that they will support you.

I take it that Nick's last post was really a joke.......


Carry on Nick, you're doing a better job than I could ever have done to make people think twice about buying this product

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The only reason this thread got onto 17 pages is because of replies like that. Failing to see the bigger picture, and basically ridiculing the original complaint.

I'm not going to go into depth on the matter again, because this could go on for another 5 or 6 pages.

Ok everyone, now that almost all of us are done flaming each other, I like to point out a few things.

1. I think the main reason why SimViation is not included in Microsoft's list of top sites is probably because of the bad wrap that we get from members of AvSim, Flight Sim, etc. Remember, there are still people in those other forums that think we're supporting pirates and such and Microsoft probably thought it was wise to not include SimV in order to avoid a debate. Silly, isn't it?

2. I have to agree with the fact that the ACES team has done so much to convince the higher management to allow open communication with our community and to allow the release of a demo for the first time in FS history, yet all they receive in return are insults and accusations of a corporate conspiracy about such an action.

3. So far, this thread has remain stable [surprisingly] without tearing itself apart into an all-out flame war. Because a) nobody got banned yet, b)this thread has yet to be locked perminently, and c) everyone has cooled down. So it's this thread that should be stickied, but I recommend that the title be changed to something more subtle.

That's it.

But if any of you like to continue to bash on and start another arguement after this thread has cooled down, I would advise against it as you should remember who's handling your medications.

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They could not discuss the situation. They honestly did what they could and what they thought was right to be available. They have never set up or been apart of such a public situation so they may not have handled things in the best way but they were not here or anywhere else for anything other than support and to listen.

They do not know who I am and never will because no one in the corporate office I deal with gives a hoot about forums. My job is completed with the project.

Any developer who is involved with the team will tell you the FSX team is very passionate about making the software everything it can be but they don’t need to be insulted nor do they need to be around unprofessional environments that do not support constructive type criticisms for the betterment of the project.


As for my comment about whining... I apologize if that appeared to be a jab. I was quite miffed after watching weeks of this crap going on in this forum and seeing yet another thread which serves no purpose other than to place a soapbox high enough for someone to blow off.

Posting a thread with a title.. A Total Joke

Lets see, perhaps I should download some of Rogers work and start a thread with that title myself... then proceed to take it apart bit by bit. That would probably facilitate good feelings and support for all his efforts, get him in the mood to do more and be around for support, wouldn't it


Yea... ok

Now that we all know how Roger and everyone feels about the software perhaps consideration for the people who spent many years of their life bringing it to you and will be improving it may be considered and without insults.

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Actually, we WERE relisted on there rather recently after a long absence that likely matched what you described above.

Shortly after tdragger stopped posting at SimV.... we were suddenly off the listing.  Coincidence? 

Who knows.

best,

.....................john

I guess Tdragger didn't feel accepted by SimV after the comments we made.

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kat, Tdragger has much better things to do anyway...
http://blogs.msdn.com/tdragger/default.aspx